Eirigi Policy On Abortion

[D.O.A]

Are eirigi a pro-life group or a pro-choice group? Do they believe abortion is unjustifiable and wrong in ALL circumstances?

Don't want to know members personal opinions, just party policy.

as far as I'm aware RSF are the only pro-life party Ireland, and maybe the DUP.

[kev86]

as far as I'm aware RSF are the only pro-life party Ireland, and maybe the DUP.

Most partys are pro life

[D.O.A]

Most partys are pro life


That's not true. By pro-life I mean that you believe abortion is wrong in all cases. Almost every Irish political party is pro-choice, they do not match the belief that abortion is wrong in all cases, as far as I'm aware only RSF and the DUP are pro-life.

[kev86]

Almost every Irish political party is pro-choice,


No they are not

[RisenBelfast]

No official policy has been set.

You've got to remember they've only been a party for less than a year and all policy must be endorsed by the membership.

I would think if this issue is a deal-breaker for anyone thinking of supporting éirígí, they may be looking at them for the wrong reason.

[D.O.A]

No official policy has been set.

I would think if this issue is a deal-breaker for anyone thinking of supporting éirígí, they may be looking at them for the wrong reason.

Have to strongly disagree there mate. Why would you join an organisation that actively supports what you believe to be one of the worst crimes against humanity. Why would you join an organisation who's policies you don't believe in, isn't that why people like RSF and 32csm and IRSP have split from Sinn Fein? They no longer agree with party policy? Isn't that why the Fianna Fail split from Sinn Fein.

I'm looking for a republican party that are pro-life, if a republican party don't match what I believe in why the hell would I join them???

From what I've read about eirigi so far I like the sound of them. Abortion is a huge moral and political issue, if it's a deal breaker for voters then it's a deal breaker for potential members.

[RisenBelfast]

If you believe abortion is a deal-breaker in joining any party trying to achieve the Republic, I really think you should be/or join Gerry McGeogh. I can't see any party suiting you.

[D.O.A]

Risen if you're an eirigi member can you elaborate on what direction the party may take?

[wherenow]

If you believe abortion is a deal-breaker in joining any party trying to achieve the Republic, I really think you should be/or join Gerry McGeogh. I can't see any party suiting you.

Nil sé sin ceart.

That's not right.this man has a profound moral objection to abortion. Why should he not expect ot find a republican party that accepts that view. If he considers every abortion as murder then he would consider abortion a worse crime than the holocaust. why should he support a party that in his view supports murder of innocents in their thousands

[D.O.A]

No they are not

Em... They are, FF, FG, Labour, PDs, Provisional Sinn Fein, Greens, all are pro-abortion, meaning they will accept abortion in certain cases. :(

[RisenBelfast]

DOA,

The wonderful thing is - I can't. I have a view, a strong one, others will do too. Once it becomes a priority or an issue that needs addressed over trying to grow progressive Republican politics I'm sure it'll get to a vote. I can't prejudge that, I know how I'd vote/argue, I can't speak for anyone else.

[D.O.A]

Thanks risenbelfast. Might be an idea get friends to join and try and get a pro-life republican alternative to RSF.

[conghaileach]

That's not true. By pro-life I mean that you believe abortion is wrong in all cases. Almost every Irish political party is pro-choice, they do not match the belief that abortion is wrong in all cases, as far as I'm aware only RSF and the DUP are pro-life.
Are you looking for a party that's pro-life or anti-choice? You don't seem to have mentioned the killing of actual living people and instead focused on fetuses/potential people/whatever the fashionable term is.

[smashthestate]

I would think if this issue is a deal-breaker for anyone thinking of supporting éirígí, they may be looking at them for the wrong reason.

If you think bread and butter politics are still subordinate to the national question then your group is a lot more blinkered than I thought. You might as well be a single issuing campaigning organisation if you don't see women having control over their own bodies as being important for any progressive political force.

If all you want to do is create a 32 county republic which offers us no greater measure of freedom in our lives then I would ask what the point is?

Is national liberation your route to socialism or is socialism your route to national liberation.

[smashthestate]

Why would you join an organisation that actively supports what you believe to be one of the worst crimes against humanity.

Republicans wishing to avoid crimes against humanity. lul. :eusa_clap:

[FTA69]

Nil sé sin ceart.

If he considers every abortion as murder then he would consider abortion a worse crime than the holocaust.

People should be able to tell the difference between the two. Anyway, can we please not let this thread descend into a debate on bloody abortion?

Republicans wishing to avoid crimes against humanity. lul.

Sorry?

[D.O.A]

Are you looking for a party that's pro-life or anti-choice? You don't seem to have mentioned the killing of actual living people and instead focused on fetuses/potential people/whatever the fashionable term is.

Pro-life, a party that unreservedly rejects abortion in all cases. If you are pro-choice you are pro-abortion, call me anti choice if you want I'll wear that badge with honour!

Anyways, there is a debate on abortion in the main category/forum. This was intended to ascertain eirigi policy, turns out there is none.

[RSF-Fianoglach]

realisticly with eirigi being a mainly socialist party,i can see them adopting a pro abortion stand as seems to be the trend of marxist orgs.

[conghaileach]

Pro-life, a party that unreservedly rejects abortion in all cases. If you are pro-choice you are pro-abortion, call me anti choice if you want I'll wear that badge with honour!
Do you reject killing in all cases, including that of actual living people?

[D.O.A]

What do you mean? Like a random murder? Of coarse I'm against it.:confused:

[RisenBelfast]

Lads,

Any chance you could keep this general discussion on abortion on the general topic it seems to belong? No offence but you moved beyond éirígí specific stuff ages ago.

[D.O.A]

True, thats fair enough. eirigi policy not yet made. End of really.

[RisenBelfast]

Cheers, DOA. Good man.