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Daithí
06-16-2007, 07:31 PM
Vienna-based historian Dr Barry McLoughlin never expected to find an Irish name while researching the fate of Austrians who died in Stalin's purges in the Soviet Union of the 1930s.

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Millions died in Stalin's purges

But when the name Patrick Breslin appeared in a Moscow News newspaper article in 1989, it was to begin a journey of discovery which would tell the tragic stories of three of Stalin's victims.

Millions died in the purges, but few realised that among them were a number of Irish who had travelled to the Soviet Union as communist idealists in the early years of the Soviet Union.

Patrick Breslin was hand-picked in 1928 by Irish trade union leader Jim Larkin to study at the International Lenin School in Moscow, the training ground for a future cadre or elite of world communist leaders.

But Breslin's free-thinking landed him in trouble, his views on spirituality not in keeping with his hard-line communist teachers who expelled him for his views.

He began working as a journalist in Moscow, married a Russian woman and had two children before the marriage foundered.

But he found love again in Moscow, this time to an Irish woman from Belfast, Margaret "Daisy" McMackin.

Their marriage in 1936 was at the height of Stalin's purges. When Daisy became pregnant, she returned to Ireland to have her child, the couple planning to reunite shortly afterwards in their homeland.

But Patrick had been forced to take out Soviet citizenship during his earlier marriage, and was prevented from leaving.

He was never to see his child, and repeated requests to leave brought arrest in 1940.

He died of ill-health in the appalling conditions of a Soviet camp in Kazan in 1942.

Gentry

Brian Goold-Verschoyle was born in County Donegal in 1912 into Anglo-Irish gentry.

Educated at Portora Royal and Marlborough public schools, he, like two of his brothers, came from an unlikely background for a communist.

"The family would have been minor gentry in comfortable circumstances but they would have seen a lot of poverty around them so they would have been conscious of what they would have perceived as the injustices around them.

"There was also a neighbour, a retired British naval Captain (Thomas) Fforde who was a communist and he probably introduced them to communist ideas," said Brian's nephew, David Simms, retired professor of mathematics at Trinity College Dublin.

Brian began working as an engineer in England, but after visiting his brother Neil in Moscow, became a Soviet spy.


When you look at it properly it's tragic because his eyes are looking into the eyes of his executioners
Victim's daughter

He fell in love in England with a German Jewish refugee, Lotte Moos, but when he took his lover to Moscow against orders, he fell foul of his Soviet masters.

He was sent to fight in the Spanish Civil War, on condition he broke off all contact with Lotte - who lives in England today.

But he disobeyed, and was tricked onto a Soviet ship in Spain, which took him back to imprisonment in the USSR where he died in 1942.

Sean McAteer was born into an Irish family in Liverpool in 1892 of a republican outlook.

He was active in James Connolly's Irish Citizen Army in pre-rebellion Ireland, causing him to flee to the US in 1915 where he was jailed for trade union activities.

He returned to fight in the Irish Civil War, but afterwards fled for the USSR when he killed a man in a botched robbery in Liverpool.

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Graves of some of the Gulag's victims

He worked as a propagandist and English teacher in Odessa, and as a Soviet spy in China, before he was shot by firing squad in 1937 during the height of the purges.

His Soviet wife Tamara and daughter Maria's persistence succeeded in having him rehabilitated posthumously in the 1950s.

After uncovering Breslin's name in the Moscow News, Barry McLoughlin's friend Shay Courtney tracked down Patrick's daughter Mairead in Dublin, who gave the required permission for him to view her father's file in the Moscow secret archives.

But he also tracked down her brother and sister Irina and Genrikh, enabling a deeply emotional meeting for the first time in 1993.

"They were waiting for me, my brother and sister and my grand-niece Katya and it was just amazing," said Mairead at her home in Dublin.

"On top of the fridge, there was the photo of papa.

"When you look at it properly, it's tragic, because his eyes are looking into the eyes of his executioners.

"But that was the beginning of some wonderful years, until Genrikh died in 2002 and Irina in 2004."

The stories of Brian and Sean were also uncovered by Dr McLoughlin¿s research, their families learning of their fate for the first time. He said the men's radical outlook which brought them to communism was to contribute to their doom.


To tell the truth I felt very sad. I was sad my father wasn't around to finally have the mystery unravelled for him
Nephew of purge victim

"Before they became communists, they were also influenced by Irish radical politics and their own backgrounds.

"They had minds of their own and I think that was part of the reason they got into trouble with the Stalinist authorities," he says, adding that there may well be other Irish victims of Stalinism whose stories remain untold.

For the families, the revelations are tinged with sadness at the deaths their relatives suffered in unthinkable loneliness, far from their homes and loved ones, in Stalinist horror.

For Mairead it was the end of a dream that perhaps she might one day find her father as an elderly man in Russia.

But Sean McEntee's nephew Eamon in Dublin says that his uncle was fortunate to have a quick death compared to Patrick and Brian.

"To tell the truth I felt very sad. I was sad my father wasn't around to finally have the mystery unravelled for him," he says.

Their stories, silent for so long, have finally been told.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/6759483.stm

quirk
06-19-2007, 04:32 PM
Victims of the purges and victims of Stalin are two different things. The above article is yet another anti-Stalin rant which seems to show no evidence one way or the other to back up its claims that these men were "innocent" victims. The article also follows the erroneous paradigm that Stalin was somehow an all powerful leader and is to blame for all the mistakes of the Soviet Union.

ballymun
06-21-2007, 12:55 PM
Wasn't it Stalin who launched the purges?

quirk
06-21-2007, 01:17 PM
No. It was the central commitee of the CPSU.

ballymun
06-21-2007, 03:02 PM
And what would Uncle Joe have done to his fellow CPSU central committee members if they hadn't launched the purges ? He'd have purged them.

quirk
06-21-2007, 04:38 PM
Well he wouldn't have had the power to do so. Stalin was not all powerful as is commonly believed and this has been clearly shown since the opening of the Soviet archives. However this fact is kept quiet as it along with the other lies and slanders against him suits capitalism/imperialism throughout the world by wrongly portraying socialist society as barbaric and with a tendency to create all powerful evil dictators.

The minutes of the central committee meetings suggest that it was not Stalin but the party first secretaries such as Khrushchev who called for the purges in an attempt to remove opposition in their areas in preparation for the multi candidate secret elections which Stalin and those around him such as Molotov were trying to introduce at the time. Despite trying this from the mid 1930's until his death (excluding the period of WW2) Stalin was repeatedly defeated on this matter, something in itself which disproves the all powerful dictator paradigm

quirk
06-21-2007, 04:43 PM
Read the following article "Stalin and the Struggle for Democratic Reform" which deals with Stalins attempts to bring about democratic reform in the Soviet Union and the communist party and in the process also illustrates how he was not all powerful as is claimed.

Part 1 (http://clogic.eserver.org/2005/furr.html)
Part 2 (http://clogic.eserver.org/2005/furr2.html)

ballymun
06-22-2007, 11:54 AM
Wasn't it Uncle Joe who organized the Moscow trials ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Trials
He was the biggest mass murderer of the twentieth century with the possible exeption of Chairman Mao.

quirk
06-22-2007, 02:32 PM
Wasn't it Uncle Joe who organized the Moscow trials ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Trials
He was the biggest mass murderer of the twentieth century with the possible exeption of Chairman Mao.

You do know that anybody can write the articles on wikipedia therefore I don't think that they can be seen as a reliable source.

As to the Moscow trials, again this would have been a decision taken by the N.K.V.D. with the backing of the central committee. Even if they had been organized by Stalin then so what. The evidence against those found guilty was overwhelming and the trials were free and fair by any standards. Maybe you are in pocession of some new evidence to suggest otherwise but if not then why ignore the facts to suit your conclusion rather than making your conclusion based on the available facts.

Most peoples views of Stalin are based on books produced during the cold war by "historians" such as Pipes and Conquest which are nothing more than anti communist rants which ignore facts to suit a particular outlook. The many claims made about Stalin can only be upheld if you refuse to take the actual facts into account. There is a new generation of historians such as J Arch Getty who are reexamining the period without the old biases and what they are finding is that the old commentary is simply untrue. These historians are not "Stalinist s" or even communists but they are concerned about finding the truth rather than writing propaganda. One of the things which was very noticeable about the older "historians" is that for years they claimed that when the Soviet archives were opened it would prove they were correct yet now that they are opened nobody seems to mention them anymore because they prove most of what was said was wrong.

If you really believe all this rubbish about Stalin and Mao then I am assuming that you are basing it on some evidence so present the evidence and we can examine it.

ballymun
06-22-2007, 09:16 PM
Most peoples views of Stalin are based on books produced during the cold war by "historians" such as Pipes and Conquest

No,most people’s views on Stalin are based on the fact that he organized terrible repression ,trumped up charges against his political opponents left ,right and centre and was responsible for the needless deaths and murder of millions of innocent people. I just read in the 32CSM website you linked to all sorts of stuff about democracy . Are the 32s now holding Stalin up as a model -sorry paradigm- for Irish democracy?
You are sure of the fairness Moscow trials and think the defendants got what they deserved. You’re talking about people like Radek, Bukharin ,Zinoviev and Kamenev ,founders of the Bolshevik party and previous allies of Stalin . What possible motive do you think such people would have had for becoming agents of fascism and allies of Hitler? That’s what they were charged with. And then within a few years of the trials Stalin allied himself with Hitler.............

quirk
06-22-2007, 09:51 PM
No,most people’s views on Stalin are based on the fact that he organized terrible repression ,trumped up charges against his political opponents left ,right and centre and was responsible for the needless deaths and murder of millions of innocent people.

If it is a fact then show the evidence. Karl Marx correctly pointed out that "in every epoch the ruling ideas are the ideas of the ruling class" and I think this is particularly true in the case of Stalin. You claim that most people take a particular view of Stalin but from where does this view arise. They are not born with an opinion on this subject so it must come from somewhere and that somewhere is in the majority of cases from "historians" such as the ones I previously pointed to. If it is from somewhere else their opinions come from then could you point me to where.

I just read in the 32CSM website you linked to all sorts of stuff about democracy . Are the 32s now holding Stalin up as a model -sorry paradigm- for Irish democracy?

What has this got to do with anything? Who ever said the 32CSM supports Stalin? As a democratic organization our members hold a wide range of differing opinions on all kinds of subjects.

You are sure of the fairness Moscow trials and think the defendants got what they deserved. You’re talking about people like Radek, Bukharin ,Zinoviev and Kamenev ,founders of the Bolshevik party and previous allies of Stalin . What possible motive do you think such people would have had for becoming agents of fascism and allies of Hitler?

What motive would Stalin have for prosecuting innocent people? You start from the assumption that Stalin is bad and try to fit the evidence around that. All these men admitted their own guilt. They were seasoned politicians and the worlds media attended their trials. Do you not think if these confessions had been forced out of them (which you probably assume despite not one iota of evidence to support this because of course this was Stalins evil Soviet Union) at least one of them would have taken the opportunity to claim this. Every one of them was allowed to defend themselves and many of them used this to make political speeches yet none denied their guilt. There were documents presented at the trials also. Why do you work on the assumption that anyone found guilty in the USSR at this time was innocent?

The ambassador of the USA Joseph E. Davies who was also a well known lawyer attended the entire trial of Bukharin. On March 17, 1938, Davies send a confidential message to the Secretary of State in Washington in which he said:

`Notwithstanding a prejudice arising from the confession evidence and a prejudice against a judicial system which affords practically no protection for the accused, after daily observation of the witnesses, their manner of testifying, the unconscious corroboration which developed, and other facts in the course of the trial, together with others of which a judicial notice could be taken, it is my opinion so far as the political defendants are concerned sufficient crimes under Soviet law, among those charged in the indictment, were established by the proof and beyond a reasonable doubt to justify the verdict of guilty by treason and the adjudication of the punishment provided by Soviet criminal statutes. The opinion of those diplomats who attended the trial most regularly was general that the case had established the fact that there was a formidable political opposition and an exceedingly serious plot.'
Joseph E. Davies, Mission to Moscow, (New York: Garden City Publishing Co., 1943), p. 163.

If you have evidence that proves these men were innocent the post it as I would love to read it. If you don't have any evidence then why do you assume they were innocent?

And then within a few years of the trials Stalin allied himself with Hitler.............

Rubbish. Stalin made a tactical pact to buy time to build up Soviet defenses for what he knew would be an inevitable Nazi attack. He only done so after Britain and France refused to sign a defence treaties with the Soviet Union.

ballymun
06-23-2007, 03:40 PM
Good to know that the 32s don't share your bizarre Stalinist paradigm of democracy Quirk. What about the sovereignty issue - is it only Ireland that should be allowed to determine its own destiny as a nation ,do you think ? Is sovereignty for Poland not so important?

quirk
06-23-2007, 04:06 PM
So what does democracy entail for you? Letting asmall ruling class make all the decisions as in the capitalist countries today? You keep saying that I am wrong on this but cannot present any evidence to back up what you are saying, while at the same time you ignore the evidence I presented.