éirígí in Co Tyrone

[tireoghan]

Will éirígí be forming in Co Tyrone soon. Heard rumours about possible outbreak in the mid-tyrone area. Any truth?

[Comrade Ryan]

Will éirígí be forming in Co Tyrone soon. Heard rumours about possible outbreak in the mid-tyrone area. Any truth?

I don't know.

But I do know that they intend organising in as many places as possible.

Why you interested?

Have to watch that 'outbreak' talk though...lol.

[tyronekev]

Maybe

[tireoghan]

I don't know.

But I do know that they intend organising in as many places as possible.

Why you interested?

Have to watch that 'outbreak' talk though...lol.

lol...should have chosen my words more carefully. I would be interested....to hear what they have to say, not alone on the national issue but on local and societal issues. Everyone and everything can do with a breath of fresh air.

[Comrade Ryan]

lol...should have chosen my words more carefully. I would be interested....to hear what they have to say, not alone on the national issue but on local and societal issues. Everyone and everything can do with a breath of fresh air.

In the absence of any knowledge as to whether there are any plans at the minute to roganise in Tyrone, I'd suggest you two men contact eirigi directly, via their email and ask about the same.

There is no harm in conversations and no commitment or obligation is implied.

For general enquiries: info@eirigi.org or phone 086 236 7298

Or for the membership department: eirigimembership@gmail.com or phone 086 236 7298

[MarkyMark]

Will éirígí be forming in Co Tyrone soon. Heard rumours about possible outbreak in the mid-tyrone area. Any truth?

Its like a disease

[Comrade Ryan]

Its like a disease

Is this humour gone wrong?

[tireoghan]

Will éirígí be forming in Co Tyrone soon. Heard rumours about possible outbreak in the mid-tyrone area. Any truth?

Its like a disease

would be better than a break-out! But you can have an outbreak of aggitation which I would definately be interested in!


In the absence of any knowledge as to whether there are any plans at the minute to roganise in Tyrone, I'd suggest you two men contact eirigi directly, via their email and ask about the same.

There is no harm in conversations and no commitment or obligation is implied.

For general enquiries: info@eirigi.org or phone 086 236 7298

Or for the membership department: eirigimembership@gmail.com or phone 086 236 7298

Might just do that Comrade...you involved yourself?

[Comrade Ryan]

would be better than a break-out! But you can have an outbreak of aggitation which I would definately be interested in!




Might just do that Comrade...you involved yourself?

Yes, why yes I am.

[andreas]

Can i as a member of the 32 County Sovereignty Movement, a single issue campaigning group that does not contradict the aims and objectives of Eirigi, become a member of the political party?

[Nijinsky]

Can i as a member of the 32 County Sovereignty Movement, a single issue campaigning group that does not contradict the aims and objectives of Eirigi, become a member of the political party?


Do you actually want to or are you just trolling?

[andreas]

I am actually interested to know is it possible for me to?

[Nijinsky]

I am actually interested to know is it possible for me to?

But do you want to join?

[andreas]

Can i? Have you a link to your party's constitution?

[Nijinsky]

Can i? Have you a link to your party's constitution?


Its not my party.

Do you want to join Eirigi or are you trolling?

[andreas]

I think thats for me to decide once furnished with the relevant info, i don't think you are in a position to quiz me with all due respect, now if you can't answer that question or link me to the consitution then leave the thread to someone in a position to.

[Nijinsky]

I think thats for me to decide once furnished with the relevant info, i don't think you are in a position to quiz me with all due respect, now if you can't answer that question or link me to the consitution then leave the thread to someone in a position to.

Fair enough but I believe you are trolling. You have no intention of joining Eirigi have you? If you were then you would have contacted the party. Go to their website and get the details of them there. Would that not be the most sensible thing to do if you werent just a troll?

And btw I'll leave the thread when I want to, not when a troll like you tells me to

[RisenBelfast]

I think thats for me to decide once furnished with the relevant info, i don't think you are in a position to quiz me with all due respect, now if you can't answer that question or link me to the consitution then leave the thread to someone in a position to.


If you are interested in joining éirígí or have any questions about membership e-mail eirigimembership@gmail.com or phone 086 236 7298

[andreas]

Will do, a number of members of my cumann are curious, thanks risen belfast.
Could i get a copy of their constitution BEFORE i join?

[andreas]

Fair enough but I believe you are trolling. You have no intention of joining Eirigi have you? If you were then you would have contacted the party. Go to their website and get the details of them there. Would that not be the most sensible thing to do if you werent just a troll?

And btw I'll leave the thread when I want to, not when a troll like you tells me to

Nijinsky, please don't call me a troll, all i have ever done in regards to Eirigi is ask questions i believed needed answered.

[Nijinsky]

Will do, a number of members of my cumann are curious, thanks risen belfast.
Could i get a copy of their constitution BEFORE i join?

Is there many members of Eirigi that are members of politcal parties andreas?

[Nijinsky]

Will do, a number of members of my cumann are curious, thanks risen belfast.
Could i get a copy of their constitution BEFORE i join?


I am sure whoever you contact will tell you, dont you?

[andreas]

Is there many members of Eirigi that are members of politcal parties andreas?
I would imagine every member of Eirigi is a member of a political party, that party being Eirigi.

[andreas]

I am sure whoever you contact will tell you, dont you?


Hope so.

[Nijinsky]

I would imagine every member of Eirigi is a member of a political party, that party being Eirigi.

My apologies andreas. I meant members of the 32csm. Are there many members of the 32csm that are in political parties? Are there many members of the 32s in IRSP or RSF? Why have you not joined the IRSP or RSF for example?

[andreas]

I am not aware of their being any at the minute however that is no reason, in theory, why their shouldn't be in future. In the past founding members of this movement sought to stay within PSF structures and challenge the denial of sovereignty from within. Others joined the project from within RSF but again i think it was RSF who, along with PSF did not regard membership of the two as compatible. I have my own reasons for not joining RSF or the IRSP. There is no bar to any member of the 32's being a member of a political party that shares its aims, i would assume there is not bar from membership of Eirigi to 32CSM members on compatibility grounds as undoubtedly Eirigi members and 32csm members share the same aims vis a vis the national question and national sovereignty. If there was a bar on 32CSM members, or anyone else, what grounds would it be on. I will address my questions to the movement itself.

[Nijinsky]

andreas: I have my own reasons for not joining RSF or the IRSP

Which are?

andreas: I am not aware of their being any at the minute however that is no reason, in theory, why their shouldn't be in future.

Why do you think that there are no 32csm members of political parties but all of a sudden yourself and some colleagues supposedly want to join Eirigi? Why do you think that is, in light of the fact that some 32csm members here seem to think Eirigi is a SF front or contains Special Branch? Why is Eirigi the chosen and special one for you and your colleagues, when the IRSP or RSF clearly arent?

[andreas]

My reasons are my own nijinsky, more personal than political perhaps.
As a new organisation (of which i don't think you are a member) Eirigi are going to get attention from other republicans, i didn't say me and my colleagues wanted to join, i said we were curious and need questions answered. I have stated that i personally didn't think eirigi were a front and that the movement that i am a member of didn't think that. Our members have had many years and many interactions with both the Irps and RSF and are aware of where they stand and where we stand in relation to them. Eirigi on the other hand are a new phenomenon which some of our members, particularly those with a more leftist bent, are curious about. People will be interested, and for a non member you ought not to get so protective or hysterical when someone asks a question or two, make you seem like a shinner.

[Nijinsky]

andreas :
As a new organisation (of which i don't think you are a member) Eirigi are going to get attention from other republicans, i didn't say me and my colleagues wanted to join, i said we were curious and need questions answered.

So ye dont want to join? Fair enough, so you were in fact trolling as I suggested.

andreas I have stated that i personally didn't think eirigi were a front and that the movement that i am a member of didn't think that. Our members have had many years and many interactions with both the Irps and RSF and are aware of where they stand and where we stand in relation to them. Eirigi on the other hand are a new phenomenon which some of our members, particularly those with a more leftist bent, are curious about. People will be interested, and for a non member you ought not to get so protective or hysterical when someone asks a question or two, make you seem like a shinner

Ooh now who doesnt like being questioned?:hmmm:

I havent got hysterical or protective but can spot a troll such as yourself when I see one

andreas: make you seem like a shinner

Is that really the best you can do?

[andreas]

I don't think it is any of your business whether i want to join, you could be anyone.
How do you make out i don't like being questioned? I don't feel the need to answer questions which i deem as personal, i will answer any question regarding the movement i belong to as best i can. If you ask me questions that i can't answer i will tell you i can't, i won't call you a troll.
Finally your responses to my questions have made you sound like certain shinners i know, its not the best i can do but in this case its apt.

[Nijinsky]

I don't think it is any of your business whether i want to join, you could be anyone.
How do you make out i don't like being questioned? I don't feel the need to answer questions which i deem as personal, i will answer any question regarding the movement i belong to as best i can. If you ask me questions that i can't answer i will tell you i can't, i won't call you a troll.
Finally your responses to my questions have made you sound like certain shinners i know, its not the best i can do but in this case its apt.

Do RSF and the IRSP allow members of the 32csm to join their organisations?

If they do, how many 32csm are members of RSF? How many are members of IRSP? Or applied ot join either org?

Do the 32csm allow members of RSF or the IRSP or other parties join the 32s?

If they do, how many members of RSF or the IRSP have joined the 32csm? Or applied to join?

[Nijinsky]

andreas: I don't think it is any of your business whether i want to join, you could be anyone.

No andreas, I am myself

And if you didnt want to discuss on an internet forum you not wanting to join Eirigi as you eventually admitted, then you shouldnt raise it on an internet forum

andreas How do you make out i don't like being questioned? I don't feel the need to answer questions which i deem as personal

You were asked political questions relating to a topic that YOU raised


andreas i will answer any question regarding the movement i belong to as best i can. If you ask me questions that i can't answer i will tell you i can't, i won't call you a troll.

And when you dont troll, I wont call you one.

[andreas]

I asked about joining, it is not that strange to want to find out about joining before one decides whether one should join, pretty standard really. I stated that personally i didn't want to go into reasons why i didn't feel i wanted to join either of the groups that were named, which political questions was i asked?
RSF won't let members of any other group join them, you'd need to ask them why.
I am not sure about IRSP as i have never had need to ask.
The 32CSM have no problem with members of political parties which defend national sovereignty joining. I am not sure if any are members.
The crux of the matter is i have answered the question in relation to the movement i am a part of, i have asked the same question of Eirigi and have not recieved a reply. If that is trolling can you define trolling?

Here is a copy of the 32CSM constitution
http://www.32csm.info/const.html

Can a member link me to Eirigi's please.

[Nijinsky]

andreas: I asked about joining, it is not that strange to want to find out about joining before one decides whether one should join, pretty standard really.

But you have since stated that you DONT want to join

andreas I stated that personally i didn't want to go into reasons why i didn't feel i wanted to join either of the groups that were named, which political questions was i asked?

You were asked why you didnt join RSF or the IRSP. Those questions are political not personal and are a result of a topic that you initiated here, surrounding whether members of the 32csm could or couldnt join other republican parties or organisations


andreas RSF won't let members of any other group join them, you'd need to ask them why.

Have you not asked them? How do you feel about that? Are you concerned that they wont?


andreas I am not sure about IRSP as i have never had need to ask.

Why have you not asked the IRSP whether or not members of the 32csm could join them?


andreas The 32CSM have no problem with members of political parties which defend national sovereignty joining. I am not sure if any are members.

Do YOU know any that are members?



andreas: Can a member link me to Eirigi's please

You were shown how to contact them. Did you?

[andreas]

All interesting questions mo chara but all aimed at not answering my initial question. Playing semantics about whether or not i wanted to join when all i stated was i was curious, why have you not joined Eirigi? This an Eirigi forum, when i asked a specific question about membership of eirigi being open to members of the 32's we have gotten dragged into this. The question was simple. Finally when did i state i DIDN'T want to join?
As a non member of Eirigi why is my correspondence or lack of it an issue to you?
If i stated that i didn't want to join RSF or the IRSP because i didn't like certain people in their leadership is that a political answer to what you claim was a political question?

[Nijinsky]

andreas: All interesting questions mo chara but all aimed at not answering my initial question.

No they are a response to your last post

andreas Playing semantics about whether or not i wanted to join when all i stated was i was curious, why have you not joined Eirigi?

I gave my reasons some time back in a reponse to CMe in a thread thatyou were involved in. Go back and read it again if you cant remember


andreas This an Eirigi forum, when i asked a specific question about membership of eirigi being open to members of the 32's we have gotten dragged into this. The question was simple. Finally when did i state i DIDN'T want to join?

andreas i didn't say me and my colleagues wanted to join

Does the above not mean that you dont want to join Eirigi? So do you want to join Eirigi, yes or no?


andreas As a non member of Eirigi why is my correspondence or lack of it an issue to you?

If you dont want to join them and repeatedly keep asking here when you have been shown how to contact them and talk to them, (but have refused to contact them) then again it would be clear that you are just trolling and not really looking to find out at all


andreasIf i stated that i didn't want to join RSF or the IRSP because i didn't like certain people in their leadership is that a political answer to what you claim was a political question?

It might be. But is it your answer? Who in the leadership of RSF or the IRSP do you not like?


Have you not asked RSF why they wont allow members of the 32csm join them? How do you feel about that? Are you concerned that they wont?

Why have you not asked the IRSP whether or not members of the 32csm could join them?

Do YOU know any members of the 32csm that are members of other organisations or political parties such as RSF or the IRSP?

[andreas]

How is any of the above relevant to the question i asked about 32csm members being allowed to join Eirigi? You, a non eirigi member, want to know whether a person DEFINATELY wants to join before you, a non eirigi member, will answer whether they can or not, strange. I never stated one way or the other whether my colleagues wanted to join, i said they were curious.
Finally, as i have stated before, my personal feelings about certain members in RSF or IRSP are irrelevant to the initial question. I know you cannot answer the question so why keep posting on the subject, i keep posting in the hope that an eirigi member may answer, why do you?

[RisenBelfast]

How is any of the above relevant to the question i asked about 32csm members being allowed to join Eirigi? You, a non eirigi member, want to know whether a person DEFINATELY wants to join before you, a non eirigi member, will answer whether they can or not, strange. I never stated one way or the other whether my colleagues wanted to join, i said they were curious.
Finally, as i have stated before, my personal feelings about certain members in RSF or IRSP are irrelevant to the initial question. I know you cannot answer the question so why keep posting on the subject, i keep posting in the hope that an eirigi member may answer, why do you?

Why don't you just contact the membership Dept? You have the details. Then you can come back and tell us the answer. No one on this forum appears to know if 32CSM members will be accepted. If you are genuine and not trolling all you have to do is make a membership query.

[Nijinsky]

andreas: How is any of the above relevant to the question i asked about 32csm members being allowed to join Eirigi? You, a non eirigi member, want to know whether a person DEFINATELY wants to join before you, a non eirigi member, will answer whether they can or not, strange.

You are getting your wires crossed here andreas. I cant answer you about whether or not you can join or not. I am sure, like the 32s and every other group they reserve the right to admit who they want and reject who they want. I have never claimed I would be able to answer you whether or not you could join. On the one hand you seem to imply you may wnat to join, on the pther hand you seem to imply you dont want to join. Which is it?

andreas
I never stated one way or the other whether my colleagues wanted to join, i said they were curious.

So does that mean, they do want to join, or they dont want to join?


andreas Finally, as i have stated before, my personal feelings about certain members in RSF or IRSP are irrelevant to the initial question. I know you cannot answer the question so why keep posting on the subject, i keep posting in the hope that an eirigi member may answer, why do you?

So can we take it that the details that were given to you by an eirigi memebr here as to who to contact, that you havent contacted them and instead have decided to keep trolling here?

I keep posting here in response to your posts


Now perhaps on the third occasion, you might decide to answer

Have you not asked RSF why they wont allow members of the 32csm join them? How do you feel about that? Are you concerned that they wont?

Why have you not asked the IRSP whether or not members of the 32csm could join them?

Do YOU know any members of the 32csm that are members of other organisations or political parties such as RSF or the IRSP?

[andreas]

Thanks risenbelfast, if i decide i want to join i will make a membership enquiry, wouldn't want to give details untill i was sure.
Now nijinsky, it is irrelevant to you whether they do want to or not, it is not for you to get hung up on.
I am not trolling here, i simply have got caught up in a tit for tat with someone who can't answer my initial question, that was wrong of me and i apologise to the readers.
Finally:
The set of questions you have asked me are irrelevant to the question i asked.

[Nijinsky]

Thanks risenbelfast, if i decide i want to join i will make a membership enquiry, wouldn't want to give details untill i was sure.
Now nijinsky, it is irrelevant to you whether they do want to or not, it is not for you to get hung up on.
I am not trolling here, i simply have got caught up in a tit for tat with someone who can't answer my initial question, that was wrong of me and i apologise to the readers.
Finally:
The set of questions you have asked me are irrelevant to the question i asked.

The questions I asked are relevant to the issues you have discussed here and were in response to previous posts of yours. So I will ask you again and hope that on this, the fourth occasion, you will have the decency to answer

Have you not asked RSF why they wont allow members of the 32csm join them? How do you feel about that? Are you concerned that they wont?

Why have you not asked the IRSP whether or not members of the 32csm could join them?

Do YOU know any members of the 32csm that are members of other organisations or political parties such as RSF or the IRSP?

There is nothing complicated about any of those questions is there andreas?

[RisenBelfast]

Can I just say I'm surprised and greatly encouraged that members of the 32CSM are so impressed with éirígí that they are engaged in active discussions on if they would be accepted as members. As I can't see these questions being asked of any other political party it seems that, at least within the circles represented by this forum, éirígí are of real interest to 32CSM members.

And if either group decides that joint membership is inappropriate, I wonder how many of these 32CSM members interested in joining éirígí would decide to end their membership of that group and go beyond just interest to sole membership of éirígí

[Nijinsky]

Thanks risenbelfast, if i decide i want to join i will make a membership enquiry, wouldn't want to give details untill i was sure.
Now nijinsky, it is irrelevant to you whether they do want to or not, it is not for you to get hung up on.
I am not trolling here, i simply have got caught up in a tit for tat with someone who can't answer my initial question, that was wrong of me and i apologise to the readers.


If you had to take heed of risenbelfasts answer in post 18 (23 or 24 posts ago) when he gave you the details of who to contact to find out the answer to your question, you wouldnt have go this far would you?

[Liam Lynch]

Can I just say I'm surprised and greatly encouraged that members of the 32CSM are so impressed with éirígí that they are engaged in active discussions on if they would be accepted as members. As I can't see these questions being asked of any other political party it seems that, at least within the circles represented by this forum, éirígí are of real interest to 32CSM members.

And if either group decides that joint membership is inappropriate, I wonder how many of these 32CSM members interested in joining éirígí would decide to end their membership of that group and go beyond just interest to sole membership of éirígí

But its pertinence lies in the fact that members of the 32CSC as it was then were suspended from membrership of PSF. Dual membership is a relevant issue .

[RisenBelfast]

But its pertinence lies in the fact that members of the 32CSC as it was then were suspended from membrership of PSF. Dual membership is a relevant issue .

Do you think the majority of 32CSM would consider applying for membership of éirígí?

[Liam Lynch]

Do you think the majority of 32CSM would consider applying for membership of éirígí?

There'd be no point in considering dual membership if it was disbarred from one side.

[RisenBelfast]

There'd be no point in considering dual membership if it was disbarred from one side.

That's the only issue that would prevent 32CSM from applying for éirígí membership? I find this stunning. What is it that the 32 find so attractive about éirígí?

[Liam Lynch]

That's the only issue that would prevent 32CSM from applying for éirígí membership? I find this stunning. What is it that the 32 find so attractive about éirígí?

It would prevent dual membership. What other issue would matter as a result?

[RisenBelfast]

Fantastic. I'm glad to hear that members of the 32CSM see so much of note in éirígí that the only concern they have is on if they would be accepted as members.

I'm not aware of any of these people actually having advanced this any by actually applying for membership.

Maybe the desire to join éirígí across the 32 CSM is a recent trend?

[andreas]

Can I just say I'm surprised and greatly encouraged that members of the 32CSM are so impressed with éirígí that they are engaged in active discussions on if they would be accepted as members. As I can't see these questions being asked of any other political party it seems that, at least within the circles represented by this forum, éirígí are of real interest to 32CSM members.

And if either group decides that joint membership is inappropriate, I wonder how many of these 32CSM members interested in joining éirígí would decide to end their membership of that group and go beyond just interest to sole membership of éirígí

Eirigi, as a new group are of interest to other republicans. The issue of membership is about individuals who perhaps wish to campaign on a wider range of issues than they currently do within their own organisation.

As regards the second question i would see the vast majority staying within the sovereignty movement simply due to the fact that most have identified the denial of national sovereignty as the KEY issue.

[andreas]

Fantastic. I'm glad to hear that members of the 32CSM see so much of note in éirígí that the only concern they have is on if they would be accepted as members.

I'm not aware of any of these people actually having advanced this any by actually applying for membership.

Maybe the desire to join éirígí across the 32 CSM is a recent trend?

I wouldn't say there is a desire across the 32CSM, i would say a curiosity among 2 or 3 people on a forum dedicated to eirigi. Applying for membership would be a step taken after these people found out the answers to certain questions, the issue of dual membership being one.

[Nijinsky]

There'd be no point in considering dual membership if it was disbarred from one side.


But if it wasnt disbarred, do you think the majority would?

[Liam Lynch]

Fantastic. I'm glad to hear that members of the 32CSM see so much of note in éirígí that the only concern they have is on if they would be accepted as members.

I'm not aware of any of these people actually having advanced this any by actually applying for membership.

Maybe the desire to join éirígí across the 32 CSM is a recent trend?

But if they weren't accepted as members what other issues would be relevant? What would be the point of discussing any other issue if dual membership was disbarred? Surely you accept that that issue must be first to be resolved before any other could be countenanced? And equally the failure to countenance other issues in lieu of the membership issue being resolved does not mean that other issues do not exist.

[Liam Lynch]

But if it wasnt disbarred, do you think the majority would?

No idea, no more than you seem to have any idea if they would be disbarred.

[Nijinsky]

I wouldn't say there is a desire across the 32CSM, i would say a curiosity among 2 or 3 people on a forum dedicated to eirigi. Applying for membership would be a step taken after these people found out the answers to certain questions, the issue of dual membership being one.

But its more than that isnt it? A number of members of your cumann also are interested according to you? Is your cumann unique or part of a trend within the 32csm leaning towards applying for membership of Eirigi?

[Nijinsky]

No idea, no more than you seem to have any idea if they would be disbarred.

I am not a member of Eirigi. You are a member of 32csm. Not exactly in touch with the feeling of your own members then?

[Liam Lynch]

I am not a member of Eirigi. You are a member of 32csm. Not exactly in touch with the feeling of your own members then?

More than you shall we say.

[Nijinsky]

More than you shall we say.


Actually it seems not according to your "no idea" answer.

[andreas]

But its more than that isnt it? A number of members of your cumann also are interested according to you? Is your cumann unique or part of a trend within the 32csm leaning towards applying for membership of Eirigi?

A number of members of the cumann were curious on the issue of dual membership, i would say others are interested in that issue also, its all about feasability at this stage.

[Liam Lynch]

Actually it seems not according to your "no idea" answer.

Actually it does as that applies to you and your 'I'm not a member of eirigi' status.

[Nijinsky]

A number of members of the cumann were curious on the issue of dual membership, i would say others are interested in that issue also, its all about feasability at this stage.

Do you think the leadership of the 32csm would be happy to see 32csm members joining Eirigi?

[andreas]

I don't know, personally i can't see why not. Do you think that the leadership of eirigi would (i know your'e not a member but give it a lash, personally speaking)

[Nijinsky]

Actually it does as that applies to you and your 'I'm not a member of eirigi' status.

No it doesnt. I said

But if it wasnt disbarred, do you think the majority would?

You replied No idea, no more than you seem to have any idea if they would be disbarred

So you had "no idea" whether or not the majority of 32csm members would join up to Eirigi if they werent barred from doing so.

[andreas]

No it doesnt. I said



You replied

So you had "no idea" whether or not the majority of 32csm members would join up to Eirigi if they werent barred from doing so.


In the absence of a convention or agm how could he?

[Nijinsky]

I don't know, personally i can't see why not. Do you think that the leadership of eirigi would (i know your'e not a member but give it a lash, personally speaking)

No idea andreas. Have you rang them yet? You can tell us all what the answer is when you do

[Nijinsky]

In the absence of a convention or agm how could he?


How could he have an "idea"? Do you have to get permission from an agm or convention to have an "idea" about something?

[andreas]

Would need answers to some very general questions before i took the step of contacting them, i'm funny that way, it's the oul republican in me.

[andreas]

How could he have an "idea"? Do you have to get permission from an agm or convention to have an "idea" about something?

Why? are you the only one that's allowed to have no idea?

[Nijinsky]

Would need answers to some very general questions before i took the step of contacting them, i'm funny that way, it's the oul republican in me.

Well why dont you ring them and ask them those general questions? Thats what risenbelfast gave you the number and e mail for

[Liam Lynch]

No it doesnt. I said



You replied

So you had "no idea" whether or not the majority of 32csm members would join up to Eirigi if they werent barred from doing so.

That's no idea to someone who clearly has no idea, or claims to. Why would it be anything else?

[Nijinsky]

Why? are you the only one that's allowed to have no idea?

I dont mind if he has no idea or not. Not at all. Feel free to remain in ignorant bliss all you want. But the difference is I had no idea about what the membership regulations are for a party I am not a member of. Liam claims to be a member of the 32csm but in his own words has "no idea" of the feelings of his own colleagues. Even you have shown that many of your cumann colleagues are interested in the idea of joining Eirigi. Liam has "no idea" of any of this whatsoever.

[Nijinsky]

That's no idea to someone who clearly has no idea, or claims to. Why would it be anything else?

No, you had "no idea" whether or not the majority of 32csm members (your own organisation allegedly) would join up to Eirigi if they werent barred from doing so.

[Liam Lynch]

That's no idea to someone who clearly has no idea, or claims to. Why would it be anything else?

Clearly Nijinsky is not in a position to answer the question. No point in further correspondence so. Does any eirigi member know the answer or have a view on it?

[Nijinsky]

Clearly Nijinsky is not in a position to answer the question. No point in further correspondence so. Does any eirigi member know the answer or have a view on it?

Of course I am in no position to answer the question. I never claimed to be.

Would you personally be happy if members of the 32csm joined Eirigi?

[Nijinsky]

Clearly Nijinsky is not in a position to answer the question. No point in further correspondence so. Does any eirigi member know the answer or have a view on it?

Would you join Eirigi if you werent disbarred from doing so?

[Liam Lynch]

Of course I am in no position to answer the question. I never claimed to be.

Would you personally be happy if members of the 32csm joined Eirigi?

I'd be even happier if I knew whether they could or not. If we got that out of the way we could then address issues of policy.

[Nijinsky]

I'd be even happier if I knew whether they could or not. If we got that out of the way we could then address issues of policy.


Are members of the 32csm disbarred from joining RSF or the IRSP?

[Nijinsky]

I'd be even happier if I knew whether they could or not. If we got that out of the way we could then address issues of policy.

Why dont you ring them and ask if you are interested? risenbelfast has given ye the number to do so

[Liam Lynch]

Are members of the 32csm disbarred from joining RSF or the IRSP?

No. What's that got to do with eirigi?

[Liam Lynch]

Why dont you ring them and ask if you are interested? risenbelfast has given ye the number to do so

But why can't a member tell me here?

[andreas]

I dont mind if he has no idea or not. Not at all. Feel free to remain in ignorant bliss all you want. But the difference is I had no idea about what the membership regulations are for a party I am not a member of. Liam claims to be a member of the 32csm but in his own words has "no idea" of the feelings of his own colleagues. Even you have shown that many of your cumann colleagues are interested in the idea of joining Eirigi. Liam has "no idea" of any of this whatsoever.

I stated that some were curious about eirigi, also you asked liam about the feelings of the 'majority' of 32csm members, he obviously feels it is not prudent to answer you without knowing for sure. Perhaps he just doesn't want to answer you full stop as it is a discussion that ought not to concern you to the extent that it does. Can 32CSM members have aan open debate with members of eirigi on this issue, if not we'll pull the plug.

[Nijinsky]

I'd be even happier if I knew whether they could or not. If we got that out of the way we could then address issues of policy.

But, when you ring them later (as i am sure you will consideirng your obvious interest) if they turned around and said to you that you could indeed join, would you join them?

[Nijinsky]

No. What's that got to do with eirigi?

Who said it has? andreas seemed to think that 32csm were disbarred from joining RSF? andreas refused to answer about the IRSP? Is andreas wrong?

Are there any members of the 32csm that you know that are also members of either RSF or the IRSP?

[Liam Lynch]

But, when you ring them later (as i am sure you will consideirng your obvious interest) if they turned around and said to you that you could indeed join, would you join them?

I might.

[andreas]

Who said it has? andreas seemed to think that 32csm were disbarred from joining RSF? andreas refused to answer about the IRSP? Is andreas wrong?

Are there any members of the 32csm that you know that are also members of either RSF or the IRSP?

There are plenty who know, this is a discussion that we wish to take place between eirigi members and ourselves, toodle along now, g'night.

[Liam Lynch]

Who said it has? andreas seemed to think that 32csm were disbarred from joining RSF? andreas refused to answer about the IRSP? Is andreas wrong?

Are there any members of the 32csm that you know that are also members of either RSF or the IRSP?

The issue at hand is dual membership with eirigi. You know this. If 32csm members are disbarred from RSF is that from the RSF position? You really don't know do you? Why aren't you a member of eirigi? No, strike that, there are enough tangents as it is.

[Nijinsky]

andreas: I stated that some were curious about eirigi, also you asked liam about the feelings of the 'majority' of 32csm members, he obviously feels it is not prudent to answer you without knowing for sure.

No thats not what he said. He said he had "no idea". Not that he couldnt divulge such highly sensitvie information or anything of the sort, just that plain and simply he had "no idea" despite being allegedly a member of the 32csm

andreas
Perhaps he just doesn't want to answer you full stop as it is a discussion that ought not to concern you to the extent that it does. Can 32CSM members have aan open debate with members of eirigi on this issue, if not we'll pull the plug

Why would he not want to answer? What would he want to hide? I thought you didnt like people being evasive?

[Nijinsky]

There are plenty who know, this is a discussion that we wish to take place between eirigi members and ourselves, toodle along now, g'night.

This is a public internet forum. Goodnight yourself.

[andreas]

This is a public internet forum. Goodnight yourself.

Sorry if i offended you, good night.

[Liam Lynch]

No thats not what he said. He said he had "no idea". Not that he couldnt divulge such highly sensitvie information or anything of the sort, just that plain and simply he had "no idea" despite being allegedly a member of the 32csm

I had no idea in relation to you who had no idea in relation to eirigi. You know this also. Would anyone from eirigi, in the eirigi section, like to address the issue of dual membership other than referrring posters to their website?

[Nijinsky]

The issue at hand is dual membership with eirigi. You know this. If 32csm members are disbarred from RSF is that from the RSF position? You really don't know do you? Why aren't you a member of eirigi? No, strike that, there are enough tangents as it is.

I dont know which is why I am asking oyu.

andreas claims that 32csm members are disbarred form joining RSF. Is that true Liam? From teh 32csm end or from the RSF end?

andreas refuses to answer whether or not 32csm members are disbarred form joining the IRSP? Are they? From the 32csms end or from the IRSP end?

Are there any members of the 32csm that you know that are also members of either RSF or the IRSP?

Surely its not a secret? You wouldnt be hiding anything would ye?

[Nijinsky]

Sorry if i offended you, good night.

Dont worry, you didnt offend me. Am surprised at your refusal to answer some fairly basic questions though considering your previously supposed annoyance at people allegedly not answering questions.

[Liam Lynch]

I dont know which is why I am asking oyu.

andreas claims that 32csm members are disbarred form joining RSF. Is that true Liam? From teh 32csm end or from the RSF end?

andreas refuses to answer whether or not 32csm members are disbarred form joining the IRSP? Are they? From the 32csms end or from the IRSP end?

Are there any members of the 32csm that you know that are also members of either RSF or the IRSP?

Surely its not a secret? You wouldnt be hiding anything would ye?

Ring RSF and the IRSP and ask them. Surely you heed your own advice? Anyone from eirigi on the issue at hand?

[andreas]

Dont worry, you didnt offend me. Am surprised at your refusal to answer some fairly basic questions though considering your previously supposed annoyance at people allegedly not answering questions.

Glad i didn't offend, am not surprised by your inability to answer basic questions.

[Nijinsky]

Liam Lynch: I had no idea in relation to you who had no idea in relation to eirigi. You know this also.

Not true Liam

I asked you:
But if it wasnt disbarred, do you think the majority would?


to which you replied

No idea, no more than you seem to have any idea if they would be disbarred.



Liam LynchWould anyone from eirigi, in the eirigi section, like to address the issue of dual membership other than referrring posters to their website?

risenbelfast gave you the number to ring and an e mail address? Have you not figured out how to use a phone or send e mails yet? If you were really interested, as opposed to trolling, you would have picked up the phone ages ago

[Nijinsky]

Glad i didn't offend, am not surprised by your inability to answer basic questions.

What question did I not answer?

[Nijinsky]

Ring RSF and the IRSP and ask them. Surely you heed your own advice? Anyone from eirigi on the issue at hand?

Why the evasion Liam? Have you asked RSF and the IRSP whether or not your members can join them?

[Liam Lynch]

risenbelfast gave you the number to ring and an e mail address? Have you not figured out how to use a phone or send e mails yet? If you were really interested, as opposed to trolling, you would have picked up the phone ages ago

Why can't an eirigi member give the relevant information here? You obviously can't, so stop trolling. Anyone from eirigi, at all?

[Nijinsky]

Why can't an eirigi member give the relevant information here? You obviously can't, so stop trolling. Anyone from eirigi, at all?


Why dont you answer what I asked you? Why are you so evasive? Is it a secret?

andreas claims that 32csm members are disbarred form joining RSF. Is that true Liam? From the 32csm end or from the RSF end?

andreas refuses to answer whether or not 32csm members are disbarred form joining the IRSP? Are they? From the 32csms end or from the IRSP end?

Are there any members of the 32csm that you know that are also members of either RSF or the IRSP?

Have you asked RSF and the IRSP whether or not your members can join them?

[Liam Lynch]

Why dont you answer what I asked you? Why are you so evasive? Is it a secret?

andreas claims that 32csm members are disbarred form joining RSF. Is that true Liam? From the 32csm end or from the RSF end?

andreas refuses to answer whether or not 32csm members are disbarred form joining the IRSP? Are they? From the 32csms end or from the IRSP end?

Are there any members of the 32csm that you know that are also members of either RSF or the IRSP?

Have you asked RSF and the IRSP whether or not your members can join them?

Anyone from eirigi? Or are they content to hide behind Nijinsky's trolling?

[RisenBelfast]

I can't think of anything that would automatically disbar a member of the 32CSM of applying for membership of éirígí.

Form an orderly queue with those application forms.

[Nijinsky]

Anyone from eirigi? Or are they content to hide behind Nijinsky's trolling?

Its yourself and andreas that were trolling here.

Ye just keep evading what ye have ben asked too Liam. Why so?

I'll try again Liam

andreas claims that 32csm members are disbarred form joining RSF. Is that true Liam? From the 32csm end or from the RSF end?

andreas refuses to answer whether or not 32csm members are disbarred form joining the IRSP? Are they? From the 32csms end or from the IRSP end?

Are there any members of the 32csm that you know that are also members of either RSF or the IRSP?

Have you asked RSF and the IRSP whether or not your members can join them?

Why not phone a friend if its too difficult for you?

[Liam Lynch]

I can't think of anything that would automatically disbar a member of the 32CSM of applying for membership of éirígí.

Form an orderly queue with those application forms.

Wasn't that simple enough? Nijinsky will be most displeased.

[Nijinsky]

Wasn't that simple enough? Nijinsky will be most displeased.


I'm as happy as can be Liam :eusa_dance:

Now that you got answered perhaps you might answer what YOU were asked?

andreas claims that 32csm members are disbarred form joining RSF. Is that true Liam? From the 32csm end or from the RSF end?

andreas refuses to answer whether or not 32csm members are disbarred form joining the IRSP? Are they? From the 32csms end or from the IRSP end?

Are there any members of the 32csm that you know that are also members of either RSF or the IRSP?

Have you asked RSF and the IRSP whether or not your members can join them?

You wouldnt want people to think that you were hiding something or being evasive would you Liam?

[Liam Lynch]

I'm as happy as can be Liam :eusa_dance:

Now that you got answered perhaps you might answer what YOU were asked?

andreas claims that 32csm members are disbarred form joining RSF. Is that true Liam? From the 32csm end or from the RSF end?

andreas refuses to answer whether or not 32csm members are disbarred form joining the IRSP? Are they? From the 32csms end or from the IRSP end?

Are there any members of the 32csm that you know that are also members of either RSF or the IRSP?

Have you asked RSF and the IRSP whether or not your members can join them?

You wouldnt want people to think that you were hiding something or being evasive would you Liam?

Now we can explore the real possibilities.

[Nijinsky]

Now we can explore the real possibilities.

So when are you going to stop being evasive and actually answer?

[Liam Lynch]

So when are you going to stop being evasive and actually answer?

When we explore it further. Watch this space.

[Nijinsky]

When we explore it further. Watch this space.


In other words you wont answer - as usual. To be expected:hmmm:

[Comrade Ryan]

Would need answers to some very general questions before i took the step of contacting them, i'm funny that way, it's the oul republican in me.

So you need general answers before contacting them?

Answers from who?

[conghaileach]

So you need general answers before contacting them?

Answers from who?

A magic 8-ball, maybe.

[tireoghan]

now theres a thread that was kept well on topic

[Comrade Ryan]

now theres a thread that was kept well on topic

I know most of these eirigi related threads are being dragged off topic, consistently, for the same reasons and by the same people.

Hopefully people get tired of it soon and we can have some productive conversations.