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RyanSouthDerry
05-10-2007, 11:16 PM
32 CSM Press Release
The Republican Challenge

The challenge facing republicans at present is how can the republican position of upholding and protecting national sovereignty be best achieved. Spin and counter spin leaves it difficult for the Irish people to have a clear view when making a decision. Anti-sovereignty propaganda emanating from the pro-establishment parties further compounds these difficulties. Therefore in addressing this subject it is important to continually highlight the illegal position of the British Government in Ireland. The Irish people have never cast a vote for the continuation of British interference in our affairs and it is widely recognised both nationally and internationally that the Irish people continue to be denied their fundamental right to self-determination.

It is also important to state that when the Irish people do cast their vote it is always with the British gun pointing at them, thus the propaganda statements of "peace or war". Republicans are not opposed to peace and strive to investigate all options in the search for that peaceful alternative in a principled way. That is why the 32 County Sovereignty Movement have lodged our sovereign claim at the United Nations, the recognised body for settling international disputes and the dispute between the Irish nation and the British government fulfils that criteria. At this stage I am not going into detail on how the British government are guilty of contravening international law that is for another day.

The republican challenge requires all sections of republicans to be open and honest with the republican base on how they are upholding and protecting Irish national sovereignty. A number of groups and individuals are on record of their opposition to the internal settlement contained in the Good Friday Agreement. I would urge everyone supporting this ideal and the leaders of such groups to look seriously and genuinely at this issue and to unite on this single issue. This should not prejudice in any way your rights or membership of your respective political parties. That then leaves provisional Sinn Fein who claim to uphold the republican position and who since signing the G.F.A. frequently refer to the sovereignty of the Irish people.

The challenge to Gerry Adams and the Sinn Fein leadership is to unambiguously explain to the Irish people, how, having signed the G.F.A., which gives legitimacy to the illegal sovereign claim of the British government in the occupied six counties, can he claim to uphold Irish national sovereignty.

That contradiction is fully reflected in the Sinn Fein constitution where it states, "re-asserted the right of the Irish Nation to sovereign independence" and "Whereas the people of Ireland never relinquished the claim to separate nationhood".

The constitution continues, "A, That the allegiance of Irishmen and Irishwomen is due to the sovereign republic proclaimed in 1916.

B, That the sovereignty and unity of the Republic are inalienable and non-judicable".

I must say that for upholding these principles of the constitution I along with others were suspended from Sinn Fein and are still awaiting clarification on how such a move was legal within that constitution.

The Sinn Fein leadership must fully explain their undemocratic move to accepting John Hume's principle of consent on this matter and come clean on their leadership led strategy that was totally rejected by the republican base in Letterkenny, County Donegal. Here the base rejected the Downing Street Declaration, which was in fact the basis for the G.F.A. contained in the Framework document.

I believe republicans have a moral responsibility to defend and protect national sovereignty, the only reason why since 1916 republicans through every generation have paid the supreme sacrifice with their lives.

It is not enough to criticise with derogatory remarks when in fact National Sovereignty is under the greatest threat ever from the British Government.

I reiterate again the issue for all republicans is protecting National Sovereignty. The challenge then to Gerry Adams is, will you lead Sinn Fein to upholding the sovereignty of the Irish people by publicly stating your support for the peaceful legitimate challenge and will you encourage all republicans to join that challenge and if not will you outline your reason for refusal.

Republicans must be strong and principled in this challenge and we all have a responsibility by our actions that Irish National Sovereignty is not damaged any further.

United on this single issue will have long and enduring success for the Irish people in their quest for national self-determination.

Sincerely,

Francis Mackey, Chairman,
32 County Sovereignty Movement

belfastcentral
10-19-2007, 02:38 AM
where do 32csm stand in relation to the legitimate governments authority being handed down by T Maguire,

this d ocument by the 32csm makes sense

Erin_go_bragh
10-19-2007, 08:52 AM
where do 32csm stand in relation to the legitimate governments authority being handed down by T Maguire,

this d ocument by the 32csm makes sense

I would have imagined it would have been the same as the provos view up until 1998. Reguardless of whatever view Maguire holds. Anyway, in the real world that legitmacy means nothing to no one. The fact that the PIRA went on to try to bring about an end to British occupation is legitmate enough for me.

quirk
10-19-2007, 11:22 AM
where do 32csm stand in relation to the legitimate governments authority being handed down by T Maguire,

We don't recognise it.

andreas
10-19-2007, 12:51 PM
Perhaps it would be more accurate to say that we don't recognise it as relevant to the current situation republicans find themselves in.

creggan2007
10-19-2007, 01:21 PM
Could that situation best be described as "Up sh1t creek without a paddle" ?

andreas
10-19-2007, 01:41 PM
I don't know, what do you think? as a republican.

creggan2007
10-19-2007, 02:30 PM
The honest reply is : I'm confused. As I told another poster I was one of those prepared to give SF a chance for awhile. I think I and my whole community were tired of the struggle and wanted a bit of peace - that's understandable isn't it after decades of it ?

But now with the way the Unionists are behaving over the Irish Language Act and the public funds for the UDA front organisation it's obvious nothing has really changed. SF have bought a pig in a poke. But where else is there the organisation and the will to re-start the fight ?

Liam Lynch
10-19-2007, 03:34 PM
The honest reply is : I'm confused. As I told another poster I was one of those prepared to give SF a chance for awhile. I think I and my whole community were tired of the struggle and wanted a bit of peace - that's understandable isn't it after decades of it ?

But now with the way the Unionists are behaving over the Irish Language Act and the public funds for the UDA front organisation it's obvious nothing has really changed. SF have bought a pig in a poke. But where else is there the organisation and the will to re-start the fight ?

Well rather than wait for such a development perhaps you should become part of it?

FreeSouthCarolina
10-20-2007, 05:25 PM
Well when you talk about the crimes of the British being recognized internationally, I am not certain as to whether you are speaking of foreign governments or the people of foreign countries recognizing it. I can not speak for foreign governments obviously, but I believe that I can say that there are many South Carolinians who can clearly see injustices of Governments like that of the Brits. Y'all have clearly gotten it worse and for a longer time frame then South Carolinians have from its Federal oppressor. So, I support you, and I know many South Carolinians like me know where you are coming from.

On a side note, my Grandmother is from Derry and have much family over there. So that is how I personally know about and care for Irish Republicanism in general.

I wish y'all the best of luck from South Carolina!

Rory O'Connor
11-20-2007, 04:33 PM
where do 32csm stand in relation to the legitimate governments authority being handed down by T Maguire,

this d ocument by the 32csm makes sense

Tom Maguire's statement, which proclaims that the army council of the Continuity IRA were the new governmental body of the Irish Republic isn't valid, since he released a similar statement in 1938 which proclaimed that the army council of the Official IRA were the new governmental body of the Irish Republic, so, technically, it isn't his decision to proclaim the new governmental body of the Irish Republic. Also, if he agreed with Provisional Sinn Féin's new strategy to abandon abstentionism in 1986 and he refused to proclaim the army council of the Continuity IRA as the governmental body of the Irish Republic, would republicans who support the Continuity IRA still accept the army council of the Provisional IRA as the governmental body of the Irish Republic?

scarface
11-20-2007, 04:55 PM
Tom Maguire's statement, which proclaims that the army council of the Continuity IRA were the new governmental body of the Irish Republic isn't valid, since he released a similar statement in 1938 which proclaimed that the army council of the Official IRA were the new governmental body of the Irish Republic, so, technically, it isn't his decision to proclaim the new governmental body of the Irish Republic. Also, if he agreed with Provisional Sinn Féin's new strategy to abandon abstentionism in 1986 and he refused to proclaim the army council of the Continuity IRA as the governmental body of the Irish Republic, would republicans who support the Continuity IRA still accept the army council of the Provisional IRA as the governmental body of the Irish Republic?

there was no official IRA in 1938 that's just what the media called the sticks after 1970

Rory O'Connor
11-20-2007, 05:14 PM
I know that there was no "Official IRA" in 1938; I referred to them as the Official IRA in my reply to belfastcentral's question because I thought that some people might be confused about which Irish republican army I am referring to.