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Comrade Ryan
06-04-2008, 10:00 AM
“Imperialist go home!”
04/06/08

Last week, it was announced on the Six-County Executive web site, that the President of the United States of America, George W. Bush, will visit the Six Counties next month, at the invitation of Ian Paisley and Martin McGuinness.

Ian Paisley, outgoing head of the Stormont assembly, said:

“I would wish to warmly welcome the news of the forthcoming Presidential visit here in June which once again underlines the close relationship between our two countries.

“The support that the Bush administration has provided has been much appreciated and we were particularly grateful for the President's personal endorsement of the recent US investment conference which certainly contributed to the success of that event.”

Whilst the current deputy first minister, Martin Mc Guinness, echoed the welcome:

“I would like to also welcome news of this visit. Over recent years the United States has played a major part in the political process. Their encouragement and help contributed to the historic events of last May.

“The President’s visit will serve to maintain the ongoing relationships between ourselves and the highest levels of the US political establishment as we seek to further develop links in the months and years ahead.”

The precise details of the visit are, at the moment, unclear and will no doubt remain so in a cynical attempt to stifle any public expressions of deep anger at this announcement by progressives and human rights activists across Ireland.

What is clear, however, is that George W Bush will be beating a well-trodden path, following in the steps of other corrupt and disgraced politicians such as Bertie Ahern and Tony Blair. Bush will attempt to cleanse his soul in the eyes of the world, by presenting himself as someone who assisted in bringing ‘peace’ to Ireland.

Irish republicans’ objections to this ‘new dispensation’ are not what are important here, as they are not the target audience. The audience will be the wretched of the earth and those that oppress them.

The question is, just what type of drama will the world bear witness to?

Will they witness a once proud, unbowed and unbroken people, bow and scrape, not only for the approval of George W Bush, but also for the crumbs stolen from someone else’s table?

Will they witness a people, once lauded for their revolutionary intent, eagerly embracing the captain of neo-liberalism; itself a cancer which feeds off the blood, sweat and tears of humanity?

Will the people of Iraq witness a welcome for the man directly responsible for the destruction of much of their country?

Will those same Iraqis understand the ‘pragmatism’ of those who shake the hand of the man responsible for the slaughter of over a million of their people, the displacement of a further five million, and the impoverishment of untold millions more?

Or will they see a risen people, a bold coalition of progressives, radicals and humanitarians, loudly denouncing the contradictions that a visit from George W Bush to Ireland represents?

Will they see Irish citizens proudly proclaiming that those who, economically and politically, strangle our brothers and sisters in Cuba, simply for having the temerity to organise themselves and an alternate way of governance for the common good, are not welcome in our land?

Will they see an Irish people defending the will of the Venezuelan people, by refusing to welcome those who have plotted and schemed to overthrow their elected government?

Will they see an Irish people standing in solidarity with the people of Palestine, by refusing to accept the presence, in our land, of a man who prevents freedom, for the Palestinians, in theirs?

Will the family, friends and comrades of Pól Brennan who escaped from the horrors of Long Kesh in 1983 after enduring the Blanket and No-Wash protests, understand the primacy of staged camera shots of beaming politicians surrounding Bush?

And this whilst the only camera that Pól experiences is that of the closed circuit variety, recording his every movement within his solitary confinement cell in the Special Housing Unit (SHU) at a Los Fresnos jail in Texas.

These are just some of the questions, which not only need to be asked, but more importantly, need to be answered.

When the President of Venezuela, Hugo Chavez, in an address to the UN General Assembly, referred to George W Bush as “the devil”, it was not a literal label. It was a metaphoric recognition that Bush, the administration he leads and the corporate elite he represents, have been responsible for a most ferocious attack on humanity over the course of the last eight years.

When Chavez said “Yankee imperialist go home” he spoke on behalf of the multitudes on this planet enduring, and increasingly resisting, US imperialist aggression.

éirígí Spokesperson, Daithí Mac an Mhaistír, asked the people of Ireland to organise against the visit and to stand in solidarity with the many victims of the Bush Regime:

“When Bush visits Ireland in June, more than likely on Monday 16, éirígí are asking people to organise and participate in protests in opposition to the lauding of a war criminal as a ‘man of peace’.

“The Irish people need to echo the resounding global disapproval of this mans regime and of the cordiality afforded to him by some in the status quo here.

“éirígí will be joining with other progressive groups to add our voice to the chorus of condemnation, and encourage every Irish citizen to do the same.”

There will be a public rally against the Bush visit outside Belfast City Hall on Monday, June 16 from 12.30pm. Everyone who is opposed to this warmonger’s presence in Ireland is invited to attend.

Keep logging on for more detail on how you can support upcoming protests and public events!


http://www.eirigi.org/latest/latest040608.html

conghaileach
06-04-2008, 01:38 PM
Excellent piece.

Cúchulainn
06-04-2008, 02:25 PM
[QUOTE=Comrade Ryan;124691
1. Will the people of Iraq witness a welcome for the man directly responsible for the destruction of much of their country?

2. Will those same Iraqis understand the ‘pragmatism’ of those who shake the hand of the man responsible for the slaughter of over a million of their people, the displacement of a further five million, and the impoverishment of untold millions more?

3. Will they see Irish citizens proudly proclaiming that those who, economically and politically, strangle our brothers and sisters in Cuba, simply for having the temerity to organise themselves and an alternate way of governance for the common good, are not welcome in our land?

4. Will they see an Irish people standing in solidarity with the people of Palestine, by refusing to accept the presence, in our land, of a man who prevents freedom, for the Palestinians, in theirs?
[/QUOTE]

1. Sounds like Saddam Hussein to me; a man Bush got rid of.

2. Ditto.

3. The Cuban government locks up gays and trade unionists. People are denied basic freedoms and the media is 100% controlled by the ommunist government.

4. Do I have to become a loyalist to support Israel?

Comrade Ryan
06-04-2008, 05:15 PM
1. Sounds like Saddam Hussein to me; a man Bush got rid of.

2. Ditto.

3. The Cuban government locks up gays and trade unionists. People are denied basic freedoms and the media is 100% controlled by the ommunist government.

4. Do I have to become a loyalist to support Israel?

Of course you are wrong but no matter, it hasn't bothered you before and surely won't now.

Cúchulainn
06-04-2008, 06:42 PM
Of course you are wrong but no matter, it hasn't bothered you before and surely won't now.

Wrong? So Cuba doesn't lock up gays and trade unionists? And Fidel Castro wasn't a dictator? And the current President was voted in by the people, not corrupt parliament officials? And basic human rights aren't denied?

Cuba is the prime example of why socialism/communism is so appalling.

Long live capitalism and God Save the Queen (okay, maybe not)!

conghaileach
06-04-2008, 09:14 PM
Wrong? So Cuba doesn't lock up gays and trade unionists? And Fidel Castro wasn't a dictator? And the current President was voted in by the people, not corrupt parliament officials? And basic human rights aren't denied?
In response to your first question, "Cuba holds large gay rights rally (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24685283/)", MSNBC, May 17, 2008

I don't think there's any need to delve even further into your ignorance.

Cúchulainn
06-05-2008, 04:45 PM
http://www.petertatchell.net/international/cuba2.htm

Comrade Ryan
06-06-2008, 03:43 PM
In response to your first question, "Cuba holds large gay rights rally (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24685283/)", MSNBC, May 17, 2008

I don't think there's any need to delve even further into your ignorance.

You hit the nail on the head there.

conghaileach
06-06-2008, 07:38 PM
http://www.petertatchell.net/international/cuba2.htm

Peter Tatchell thinks that everyone's a homophobe.

Cúchulainn
06-07-2008, 01:31 PM
Cuba is a nightmarish place to live. You must be pathetic if you believe that socialism/communism is anything other than a failed experiment of the twentieth century.

quirk
06-07-2008, 05:52 PM
Cuba is a nightmarish place to live. You must be pathetic if you believe that socialism/communism is anything other than a failed experiment of the twentieth century.

Well you must be unaware of the massive achievements which happened under socialism (communism has never existed except in its primitive form). In China under Mao for example the life expectancy doubled, infant morality was lower than New York city, the food problem was finally solved, drugs where virtually wiped out (China had the worst drug problem in the world before 1949) and the masses of people from every part of society where encouraged to participate in the forming of a new world.

Cúchulainn
06-07-2008, 06:35 PM
Well you must be unaware of the massive achievements which happened under socialism (communism has never existed except in its primitive form). In China under Mao for example the life expectancy doubled, infant morality was lower than New York city, the food problem was finally solved, drugs where virtually wiped out (China had the worst drug problem in the world before 1949) and the masses of people from every part of society where encouraged to participate in the forming of a new world.

And the 40,000,000 people for whose deaths he was repsonsible?

quirk
06-07-2008, 06:41 PM
And the 40,000,000 people for whose deaths he was repsonsible?

Very doubtful. Show me your sources.

Cúchulainn
06-08-2008, 05:40 PM
Very doubtful. Show me your sources.

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm#Mao

People's Republic of China, Mao Zedong's regime (1949-1975): 40 000 000.

But of course, despite the fact the communists such as Mao and Stalin were bigger murderes than every fascist ever put together, they were clearly brilliant people and I as a republican should back them...not.

conghaileach
06-09-2008, 02:16 PM
Cuba is a nightmarish place to live. You must be pathetic if you believe that socialism/communism is anything other than a failed experiment of the twentieth century.

I take it that you base your in-depth analysis of Cuba on the years you spent living there.

quirk
06-09-2008, 05:11 PM
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm#Mao

People's Republic of China, Mao Zedong's regime (1949-1975): 40 000 000.

But of course, despite the fact the communists such as Mao and Stalin were bigger murderes than every fascist ever put together, they were clearly brilliant people and I as a republican should back them...not.

Yeah the sources used there are real reliable - the black book or communism and Mao: the unknown story both of which have been shown to be shabby anti communist rants rather than any kind of reliable research. Might as well use Mein Kampf in making a judgement of the Jews.

Cúchulainn
06-09-2008, 09:22 PM
Yeah the sources used there are real reliable - the black book or communism and Mao: the unknown story both of which have been shown to be shabby anti communist rants rather than any kind of reliable research. Might as well use Mein Kampf in making a judgement of the Jews.

Haha lol. You will dismiss all evidence out of hand. Communism is in practise eactly the same as fascism. I would rather have lived in Nazi Germany than Stalinist Russia, and you're defending people like Mao and Stalin? They were evil mass murderes and there is a reason that socialism isn't popular in Ireland - no-one wants such a dated, dangerous philosophy to influence their government.

belfast rep
06-10-2008, 07:50 AM
I take it that you base your in-depth analysis of Cuba on the years you spent living there.
do you??

robertemmett
06-10-2008, 06:03 PM
are eirigi having a protest at his visit on monday?

Comrade Ryan
06-11-2008, 08:34 AM
are eirigi having a protest at his visit on monday?

I'd imagine eirigi will support all progressive protest actions on the day and the lead up to it.

RisenBelfast
06-11-2008, 09:12 AM
are eirigi having a protest at his visit on monday?

éirigi members have attended every meeting organised against this visit and above have call for support for the demonstration and when/if other events materialism I'm sure further support for them will be forthcoming. Members of éirigi were at the forefront of demonstrations (being arrested as a result) when Bush's former partner in crime, Tony Blair, engaged in a similar exercise of trying to use the 'process' in Ireland to take the tarnish off his imperialist credentials at the end of his time in office and I doubt it'll be any different this time.

conghaileach
06-11-2008, 06:16 PM
I take it that you base your in-depth analysis of Cuba on the years you spent living there.
do you??

Which in-depth analysis of mine are you referring to?

conghaileach
06-11-2008, 06:24 PM
Haha lol. You will dismiss all evidence out of hand. Communism is in practise eactly the same as fascism. I would rather have lived in Nazi Germany than Stalinist Russia, and you're defending people like Mao and Stalin?

I wouldn't defend people like Stalin or Mao out of hand but there is a controversy over the 'numbers game' being played in reference to their regimes. See, for instance, "The battle for history (http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/artsandhumanities/story/0,,790647,00.html)", The Guardian (UK), September 12, 2002.

QuinnP
06-11-2008, 08:58 PM
gee, & I thought it wasn't possible for me to hate Ian Paisley any more

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