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belfast 1916
06-16-2008, 04:36 PM
went to the city hall anti-bush rally today, on my way down the falls seen a number of eirigi banners at west link, but the rasing of the iraqi flag over city hall was top class well done to all who took part.


on another note, did no-one find it bizare that sinn fein members were protesting outside cityhall, while sinn fein leadership who invited him in the first place and were up in stormont shaking hands with the gimp. the mind boggels

RisenBelfast
06-16-2008, 04:39 PM
Since you spoiled the surprise (I was waiting for it to go on the éirígí website) here's a pic:

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/7896/eirigiaction2vx5.jpg

fergal
06-16-2008, 04:41 PM
very good there with the flag.

LDN_Irish
06-16-2008, 04:43 PM
Good show!

conghaileach
06-16-2008, 04:49 PM
It's up (http://www.eirigi.org/latest/latest160608.html) on their site now.

RisenBelfast
06-16-2008, 04:51 PM
Belfast Says No to War Criminals

16/06/08

éirígí activists today (Monday) removed the British Union Jack from Belfast City Hall and replaced it with the flag of Iraq in a gesture of solidarity with the people of the Arab nation.

http://eirigi.org/images/bush_belfast03.jpg

As hundreds of people gathered at the front of the City Hall to protest against the presence of US war criminal George W Bush in occupied Ireland, the activists gained access to the roof of the building to make their statement.

Earlier in the day, éirígí members had unfurled banners on the major motorway routes into Belfast to coincide with Monday’s protests.

Despite the fact that the mass media and the vast majority of politicians had expressed no objection to George Bush and his British counterpart Gordon Brown being feted in Ireland, citizens from across the country came out to give their own verdict.

And that verdict was unequivocal: Belfast, and the rest of Ireland, wants no part in the crimes that are being committed day and daily by the British and US governments.
http://eirigi.org/images/bush_belfast01.jpg

As speaker after speaker reiterated at the City Hall, we would rather stand beside the peoples of Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Cuba and Venezuela than be associated with their chief tormentors.

éirígí chairperson Brian Leeson said today’s actions were an effort to highlight the crimes being committed by the British and US administrations.

“While George Bush was invited here by local politicians, the people of Belfast today showed that that invitation was not in their name.

http://eirigi.org/images/bush_belfast02.jpg

“Despite the fact that the demonstration took place on a work day, hundreds of people made the effort to attend and show their disgust for the warmongering policies of George Bush and Gordon Brown.”

Brian continued: “éirígí’s actions today were in line with that very public opposition.

http://eirigi.org/images/bush_belfast04.jpg

“We wanted to highlight the fact that while Britain and the USA continue to occupy other people’s countries, including part of our own, they should not be welcomed to Belfast as peacemakers or international statesmen. They are war criminals who have the blood of countless innocent civilians on their hands, and they should be treated as such.

“I thought the gesture of placing the Iraqi flag on top of Belfast’s City Hall was particularly pertinent, as the flag it replaced – Britain’s flag of occupation – should have been removed from that building a long time ago.”

Brian concluded: “As was seen in London last night, Belfast today and around the world countless times over the last few years, the vast majority of humanity are opposed to occupation and mass murder for profit or imperial power.

“éirígí will continue to extend solidarity in whatever we can to the people of other occupied nations, while at the same time working to end the British occupation of Ireland.”

http://eirigi.org/images/bush_belfast06.jpg



http://eirigi.org/latest/latest160608.html

LDN_Irish
06-16-2008, 04:53 PM
It's up (http://www.eirigi.org/latest/latest160608.html) on their site now.

Impressive piece, true words.

Raffles
06-16-2008, 04:55 PM
Fantaaaaaaaaaaaaaaastic:eusa_dance:

Well done to those involved

mickyk200
06-16-2008, 05:05 PM
:eusa_dance:

DFCRFB
06-16-2008, 05:06 PM
thats brilliant!!!

Seán1798
06-16-2008, 05:14 PM
Good work! One in the eye for the warmongering fvck. Wahda! Hurriyah! Ishtirakiyah!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Iraq

mickeyjrooney
06-16-2008, 05:21 PM
well done to everyone who made sure that Bush knows that he is not welcome by the Irish people, and that he is a war monger.
:eusa_clap::eusa_clap::eusa_clap:

Peter Tosh
06-16-2008, 05:34 PM
I saw that on the news and all the different groups that came together to protest. It was good to see. They should have put up an Iranian and a Venezualan flag instead because the Iraqi flag just recognises the corrupt, criminals in the puppet administration.

Red Revolutionary
06-16-2008, 05:35 PM
Brilliance so it is.

robertemmett
06-16-2008, 05:37 PM
good show. did it stay up long? well done!!

FTA69
06-16-2008, 05:50 PM
because the Iraqi flag just recognises the corrupt, criminals in the puppet administration.

What? And the Islamic Republic of Iran isn't corrupt and criminal? Go on away lad, the Iraqi flag shown in that photo represents the people of Iraq who are under actual military occupation by the US and Britain. The corrupt administration in Iraq actually tried to change that flag and were universally shot down over the issue.

This was a commendable and innovative protest, you shouldn't be nit-picking over it. Well done to all those who took part.

dddd
06-16-2008, 05:53 PM
You'd think City Hall would have better security :S

Good job though

liam
06-16-2008, 07:01 PM
Fair play lads :eusa_clap:

Patrick Henry
06-16-2008, 07:09 PM
"I would like to also welcome news of this visit. Over recent years the United States has played a major part in the political process. Their encouragement and help contributed to the historic events of last May.

"The President's visit will serve to maintain the ongoing relationships between ourselves and the highest levels of the US political establishment as we seek to further develop links in the months and years ahead."

A case of McGuinness bleating about The Bush?

andreas
06-16-2008, 07:16 PM
I think an Irish flag along side the Iraqi one would have been most apt, that being said, good one.

McLiam
06-16-2008, 07:35 PM
I was there, and it was a great moment, the crowd went wild.

And as much as I also would have wanted to see a Tricolour up there, and one of the Eirigi lads said that the Butcher's Apron should have been burnt, the rally wasn't about Ireland, it was about Bush's actions in Iraq and the Middle East.

neilhere
06-16-2008, 07:42 PM
Well done!! Great idea to put up the Iraqi Flag!!

RepublicanTom1916
06-16-2008, 07:43 PM
have to say eirigi is seeming more and more appealing
good work to all involved

RisenBelfast
06-16-2008, 08:06 PM
I was there, and it was a great moment, the crowd went wild.

And as much as I also would have wanted to see a Tricolour up there, and one of the Eirigi lads said that the Butcher's Apron should have been burnt, the rally wasn't about Ireland, it was about Bush's actions in Iraq and the Middle East.

It wasn't an official quote. I was only shooting the breeze when you came over.

McLiam
06-16-2008, 08:21 PM
It wasn't an official quote. I was only shooting the breeze when you came over.

:icon_lol:

Keep it hush hush, but I'd say most of the crowd would have agreed.

RisenBelfast
06-16-2008, 08:28 PM
As I knew it was going down and was supportive of the action its a bit hard to judge but I thought it gave the crowd a buzz and it may indicate more direct action and creativity on these issues rather than just the rally and speeches format should be explored by people involved in left and progressive action.

The appetite seems to be there to push on a bit while it seems those fronting these things are often caught in a formulaic approach.

dddd
06-16-2008, 08:34 PM
Nationalist Catholics relate to oppressed communities around the world

McLiam
06-16-2008, 08:37 PM
Like I say, the crowd loved it. Plus with the banner, it gets the name of Eirigi out there as a party of action, which can only be a good thing. People will pass it off as a publicity stunt. Well, of course it was, it got the message out that people in Ireland support the Iraqi people, show them solidarity in their occupation, and it is publicity for Eirigi, adding further to their rapid growth in the past year.

It also shows Eirigi as more than a one trick horse, as is a problem with Republican parties. In know IRSP was there too, but they aren't known for their anti-bush aspect, and they were fairly low-key, but then again, most things would be low key compared to storming the roof of the city hall.

RisenBelfast
06-16-2008, 08:42 PM
SF tried to make an impact with 30 odd of them in identical t-shirts. Did you see what it said on them? they were on the opposite side from us and only Sue Ramsey came over and I'm not looking at her chest for anything!

McLiam
06-16-2008, 08:45 PM
I saw a few Ógra kiddies, sipping their coffee after.

Wasn't impressed with the hypocrisy of the SF line.

Foyleview
06-16-2008, 09:23 PM
Took down the union Flag and put up an Iraq one. What was wrong with our Tri-colour ? Surley it would have been better to draw attention to our own unfinished business .

Nijinsky
06-16-2008, 09:24 PM
Took down the union Flag and put up an Iraq one. What was wrong with our Tri-colour ? Surley it would have been better to draw attention to our own unfinished business .

It was an anti-Bush demo. Last time I looked it was Iraq that the US were occupying, not Ireland.

FIM-92
06-16-2008, 09:25 PM
Maith thú.

Foyleview
06-16-2008, 09:34 PM
It was an anti-Bush demo. Last time I looked it was Iraq that the US were occupying, not Ireland.

What about palistine ? what about Afganistan ? I would not have replaced one foreign flag with another.

What did you think you were saying by putting up the Iraqi Flag ? If bush had seen it , he probably would have saluted it and maybe seen it as an act of Solidarity.

Nijinsky
06-16-2008, 09:35 PM
What about palistine ? what about Afganistan ? I would not have replaced one foreign flag with another.

You didnt replace it - full stop

focail amhain
06-16-2008, 09:43 PM
The Iraq flag was hoisted above City Hall today in solidarity with the oppressed peoples of that country. As for me, I would rather see any flag flying up there than the hated 'butchers apron'. For those who bemoan the fact that the Irish tricolour was not on display, I refer them to one of the banners which were placed on the Westlink bridges early that morning.

British troops out of Irand and Iraq.

Give credit where its due!

focail amhain
06-16-2008, 09:45 PM
British troops out of Ireland and Iraq. Sorry for misspelling Ireland.

Nijinsky
06-16-2008, 09:53 PM
The Iraq flag was hoisted above City Hall today in solidarity with the oppressed peoples of that country. As for me, I would rather see any flag flying up there than the hated 'butchers apron'. For those who bemoan the fact that the Irish tricolour was not on display, I refer them to one of the banners which were placed on the Westlink bridges early that morning.

British troops out of Irand and Iraq.

Give credit where its due!

Foyleview clearly doesnt want to

MarkyMark
06-16-2008, 10:00 PM
EASTBelfast DUP Councillor Robin Newton has said questions about the tearing down of the National Flag from the flag post on top of the City Hall need to answered.

Robin Newton said,

“The senseless individuals responsible for this despicable act should be grateful that they live in a free country where human rights such as the right to political opinions are respected and enshrined in law. That was certainly not the case in the dictatorship of Saddam Hussein – whose toppling from power they so vociferously opposed.


The Union Flag represents freedom, democracy and unity in the face of dictatorship. People died defending the ideals of our national flag. The infantile people responsible for tearing it down have insulted the memory of all those who fought to keep our country free down through the years. They should be ashamed of themselves.


Those who broke into the City Hall to remove the Union Jack and replace it with the Iraqi flag deserve to be condemned. This type of incident can inflame tensions and lead to other more serious outbreaks of public disorder.


It is doubtful that the people of Iraq would condone this insulting incident carried out against the national symbol of the United Kingdom”, added the DUP MLA

Nijinsky
06-16-2008, 10:06 PM
EASTBelfast DUP Councillor Robin Newton has said questions about the tearing down of the National Flag from the flag post on top of the City Hall need to answered.

Robin Newton said,

“The senseless individuals responsible for this despicable act should be grateful that they live in a free country where human rights such as the right to political opinions are respected and enshrined in law. That was certainly not the case in the dictatorship of Saddam Hussein – whose toppling from power they so vociferously opposed.


The Union Flag represents freedom, democracy and unity in the face of dictatorship. People died defending the ideals of our national flag. The infantile people responsible for tearing it down have insulted the memory of all those who fought to keep our country free down through the years. They should be ashamed of themselves.


Those who broke into the City Hall to remove the Union Jack and replace it with the Iraqi flag deserve to be condemned. This type of incident can inflame tensions and lead to other more serious outbreaks of public disorder.


It is doubtful that the people of Iraq would condone this insulting incident carried out against the national symbol of the United Kingdom”, added the DUP MLA

:icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

RisenBelfast
06-16-2008, 10:09 PM
http://www.indymedia.ie/cache/imagecache/local/attachments/jun2008/460_0___30_0_0_0_0_0_eirigi_action1_1.jpg

Some people are never happy.

RisenBelfast
06-16-2008, 10:10 PM
Marky,

Where is that story from?

Foyleview
06-16-2008, 10:14 PM
Fair enough. i have respect for Eirig. I like the way they do business.

MarkyMark
06-16-2008, 10:16 PM
Marky,

Where is that story from?

the DUP website in their news section

RisenBelfast
06-16-2008, 10:18 PM
Got it. You can get the link via properties.

http://dup.org.uk/articles.asp?Article_ID=3462

Comrade Ryan
06-16-2008, 10:45 PM
What about palistine ? what about Afganistan ? I would not have replaced one foreign flag with another.

What did you think you were saying by putting up the Iraqi Flag ? If bush had seen it , he probably would have saluted it and maybe seen it as an act of Solidarity.

This is pretty poor, even from you.

The rally was not about Ireland it was about Iraq and Afghanistan. The Iraqi flag was hoisted in solidarity with the people of Iraq not its corrupt government.

Funny everyone else seems to get it. It even got a round of applause from your party colleagues.

I'm not impressed with your what abouts. If you want to get into what abouts, what about refusing to meet the war criminal, what about your Cllrs taking the Union Jack off the City Hall (it flies 365 days a year), etc.

Really grow up.

It was a good action and was well intentioned.

Don't be bitter just because it was carried out by another republican group.

By the way, I notice your concern about Afghanistan doesn't stretch to you being able to spell it correctly - something you share with your SF comrades - well going by their misspelt t-shirts anyways.



:redface:

neilhere
06-16-2008, 10:58 PM
What about palistine ? what about Afganistan ? I would not have replaced one foreign flag with another.

What did you think you were saying by putting up the Iraqi Flag ? If bush had seen it , he probably would have saluted it and maybe seen it as an act of Solidarity.

Such unneccessary nitpicking from you as usual. The Eirigi activists who put up the Iraq flag should be congratulated for an act of solidarity with the Iraqi people. When you do something of equal merit then come back and start criticising!

Foyleview
06-16-2008, 11:21 PM
Such unneccessary nitpicking from you as usual. The Eirigi activists who put up the Iraq flag should be congratulated for an act of solidarity with the Iraqi people. When you do something of equal merit then come back and start criticising!

did you read all my posts ? is it not you thats nit picking ?

Seán1798
06-16-2008, 11:53 PM
Nationalist Catholics relate to oppressed communities around the world

:icon_lol:

I let it go lol

conghaileach
06-17-2008, 12:10 AM
I saw that on the news and all the different groups that came together to protest. It was good to see. They should have put up an Iranian and a Venezualan flag instead because the Iraqi flag just recognises the corrupt, criminals in the puppet administration.

They put up the pre-occupation Iraqi flag (it's been changed since).

conghaileach
06-17-2008, 12:12 AM
Got it. You can get the link via properties.

http://dup.org.uk/articles.asp?Article_ID=3462
So close. ;)

http://dup.org.uk/articles.asp?Article_ID=3464

tireoghan
06-17-2008, 09:32 AM
Well done lads. Great Propaganda and a deadly sign of solidarity. eirigi is definately going up in my estimation.
Maith Thu

conghaileach
06-17-2008, 12:14 PM
This short clip from the BBC shows the flag going up.

Anti-Bush protests in Belfast

belfast 1916
06-17-2008, 02:55 PM
Since you spoiled the surprise (I was waiting for it to go on the éirígí website) here's a pic:

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/7896/eirigiaction2vx5.jpg

sorry for spoiling it comrade lol

neilhere
06-17-2008, 07:55 PM
did you read all my posts ? is it not you thats nit picking ?

Sorry but where exactly was i nitpicking! You were the one finding faults in what was a very commendable action by Eirigi! Eirigi should be congratulated for this. End of story.

conghaileach
06-17-2008, 07:59 PM
Since you spoiled the surprise (I was waiting for it to go on the éirígí website) here's a pic:

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/7896/eirigiaction2vx5.jpg

It's a great photo, isn't it?

RisenBelfast
06-17-2008, 08:18 PM
It's a great photo, isn't it?

I like it but the drama is all in the juxtaposition of the pre-occupation Iraqi flag against the British Imperialist architecture. I prefer this one where the drama includes the republican activists and the salute of defiance a mirror opposite of the imperialist architecture below:

http://eirigi.org/images/bush_belfast03.jpg

conghaileach
06-17-2008, 08:34 PM
Um... in this one you can see the flag waving.

http://www.indymedia.ie/attachments/jun2008/belfast_says_bush_off_5.jpg

RisenBelfast
06-17-2008, 08:50 PM
Um... in this one you can see the flag waving.

http://www.indymedia.ie/attachments/jun2008/belfast_says_bush_off_5.jpg

You can but the the two activists waving isn't creating the same conflict as the defiant salute mirroring Britiannia on the relief in the one I prefer

conghaileach
06-17-2008, 09:08 PM
More DUP reaction (reaction, geddit?) to the flag incident:

UNISON Comments Blasted
(http://www.dup.org.uk/articles.asp?Article_ID=3466)

conghaileach
06-17-2008, 09:08 PM
As a point of interest, the BNP have also reacted:

Belfast: Iraqi flag flown over City Hall (http://regionalnews.bnp.org.uk/bnp-ulster-region/belfast-iraqi-flag-flown-over-city-hall_3631.html)

mickyk200
06-17-2008, 09:35 PM
Patricia McKeown has demonstrated her anti British sentiments
LMFAO...they never fail to amuse me

duggie-89
06-20-2008, 11:25 PM
hey its been a while since i have been on but wel done on the city hall flag issuse

i was in the crowd and there was a gud ole roar went up when people realised what had happened so top marks like lol

Comrade Ryan
06-22-2008, 02:04 PM
hey its been a while since i have been on but wel done on the city hall flag issuse

i was in the crowd and there was a gud ole roar went up when people realised what had happened so top marks like lol

Here duggie,

Were you wearing one of the t-shirts?

duggie-89
06-22-2008, 07:54 PM
Here duggie,

Were you wearing one of the t-shirts?

wel alot of people were wearing t-shirts :icon_lol: :icon_lol:

but yea i was wearing a white t-shirt, y?

Comrade Ryan
06-23-2008, 10:26 AM
wel alot of people were wearing t-shirts :icon_lol: :icon_lol:

but yea i was wearing a white t-shirt, y?

One of the SF ones?

Who was in charge of spelling?

seosmc
06-23-2008, 11:06 AM
Here duggie,

Were you wearing one of the t-shirts?

have you a fetish around t shirts?

Comrade Ryan
06-23-2008, 11:08 AM
have you a fetish around t shirts?

:icon_lol:

duggie-89
06-23-2008, 06:08 PM
One of the SF ones?

Who was in charge of spelling?

yea,

:hmmm: :hmmm:

i haven't a clue why do u ask? could it be a misprint or something?

Comrade Ryan
06-23-2008, 06:11 PM
yea,

:hmmm: :hmmm:

i haven't a clue why do u ask? could it be a misprint or something?

Apparently they spelt Afghanistan incorrectly.

inchicore_republican
06-23-2008, 06:52 PM
Fair play to Eirigi,I have been on a few of their protests and they get some grief from the cops which shows the establishment is worried about them.

seosmc
06-23-2008, 06:55 PM
Apparently they spelt Afghanistan incorrectly.

apparently? you mean you didn see these ones either?:hmmm:

Comrade Ryan
06-24-2008, 09:42 AM
apparently? you mean you didn see these ones either?:hmmm:

I did see them as i was at city hall, were you?

But I didn't pay much attention to what was on them.

I've asked a number of peopel who were there about this but no-one seems willing to answer.

Think you could maybe go on another one of your spy missions?

belfast rep
06-24-2008, 09:58 AM
apparently? you mean you didn see these ones either?:hmmm:
we left an 'i' out.
god damn us

Comrade Ryan
06-24-2008, 10:22 AM
we left an 'i' out.
god damn us

:icon_laugh:

I'm justified.

It was only a wee bit of a sleg anyways people, nothing to get annoyed about.

duffers
06-29-2008, 01:12 AM
It is doubtful that the people of Iraq would condone this insulting incident carried out against the national symbol of the United Kingdom”, added the DUP MLA

Did this pleb not see hordes of Iraqis burning that tatty flag then, no?

I would imagine the apron and the Yankee flag are firewood in those parts!

theirishlondonerz
06-29-2008, 06:57 PM
GD WORK LADS!

To all you sell outs, you just wrapped yourself in the union jack. The butchers ffing apron boy!

Who does Ireland belong to...Ireland what right does any country have, to take land from her!

Spies, who make us uncertain of where our friendships lie. Will tear us apart, it has been done before, and tis our greatest enemy!

kev86
06-29-2008, 09:25 PM
GD WORK LADS!

To all you sell outs, you just wrapped yourself in the union jack. The butchers ffing apron boy!

Who does Ireland belong to...Ireland what right does any country have, to take land from her!

Spies, who make us uncertain of where our friendships lie. Will tear us apart, it has been done before, and tis our greatest enemy!


Stop spamming the same posts on differant threads please.

LDN_Irish
06-29-2008, 09:31 PM
Stop spamming the same posts on differant threads please.

It's a different post each time, that is his signature I think, TILZ, there is a way of setting a sig so you don't have to paste it in every time and it comes out underneath.

Seán1798
06-29-2008, 11:34 PM
that is his signature I think

'tis our greatest enemy