éirígí stencils - picture thread

[RisenBelfast]

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[robertemmett]

excellent. the one with the soldier looks really well. congrats to the stencil maker

[RisenBelfast]

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[Foyleview]

Hardly adds to the look of the area . Why had they to put them almost one ontop of the other ? could they not have painted out the other grafitte before stencilling. The wall has obviously been painted over before, probably at the request of local residents. were local residents consulted before wall was again defaced ?

[sublime]

Good work. The one detailing the number of British troops in Ireland was very pleasing to see. Although the stencil relating to the ownership of the wealth is simplistic. In April 2003 the average industrial wage (before tax) in Northern Ireland was £19,416 (1), this means that the average worker in the north is in the 4.4% of the world's richest people. (2)

The left apply the Marxist definition of the working class to the hilt, erstwhile ignoring that the world is a changed place. The 'working class' in the first world are non-revolutionary and the fact that the left pander to this myth of the first world proletariat is a waste of time.

First world workers want iPods and the latest products, third world workers want nourishment, food and shelter and are prepared to stand for it.

1. http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/?id=2004-05-27.175919.h
2. http://www.globalrichlist.com/

[RisenBelfast]

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[neilhere]

Hardly adds to the look of the area . Why had they to put them almost one ontop of the other ? could they not have painted out the other grafitte before stencilling. The wall has obviously been painted over before, probably at the request of local residents. were local residents consulted before wall was again defaced ?

What exactly do you do that enables you to criticise every group on this forum? Are you just jealous that one person with a spray can has done more for Ireland than you will ever or have ever done ?

[neilhere]

Stencils look great! Well done to all involved!

[Comrade Ryan]

Hardly adds to the look of the area . Why had they to put them almost one ontop of the other ? could they not have painted out the other grafitte before stencilling. The wall has obviously been painted over before, probably at the request of local residents. were local residents consulted before wall was again defaced ?

If you had any background in republican politics at all you'd know that politically inspired art and graffitti has a long and proud history of conveying political and social messages not just here but throughout the world.

I'd have though the fact that 80% own 20% of the wealth and that there were more British soldiers in Ireland than in Iraq were more pressing issues than political graffitti.

[Comrade Ryan]

Good work. The one detailing the number of British troops in Ireland was very pleasing to see. Although the stencil relating to the ownership of the wealth is simplistic. In April 2003 the average industrial wage (before tax) in Northern Ireland was £19,416 (1), this means that the average worker in the north is in the 4.4% of the world's richest people. (2)

The left apply the Marxist definition of the working class to the hilt, erstwhile ignoring that the world is a changed place. The 'working class' in the first world are non-revolutionary and the fact that the left pander to this myth of the first world proletariat is a waste of time.

First world workers want iPods and the latest products, third world workers want nourishment, food and shelter and are prepared to stand for it.

1. http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/?id=2004-05-27.175919.h
2. http://www.globalrichlist.com/

That statement is indeed simplistic - I mean your not the stencilers.

[RisenBelfast]

Was delighted when I got these photographs this morning. Well done to all involved and particularly the stencil maker - the Brit one is brilliant.

As noted above there is a long and proud history of political art in Ireland and it is good to see it continuing with such strong themes - anti-imperialism, occupation and poverty.

One thing is for sure - pretty much everyone in West Belfast knows of eirigi now and the issues that are important to them.

Great job!

[RisenBelfast]

More:

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[Seán1798]

In April 2003 the average industrial wage (before tax) in Northern Ireland was £19,416 (1), this means that the average worker in the north is in the 4.4% of the world's richest people. (2)


They function almost exactly as middle class used to function before globalisation. They're the very ones that enable the Imperial system and give it its legitamacy. Everybody likes to think they're the oppressed though it seems and they get quare upset when you point out the facts.

[Foyleview]

If you had any background in republican politics at all you'd know that politically inspired art and graffitti has a long and proud history of conveying political and social messages not just here but throughout the world.

I'd have though the fact that 80% own 20% of the wealth and that there were more British soldiers in Ireland than in Iraq were more pressing issues than political graffitti.


Why do you always have to get with the personal ? you must have a huge ego and an inflated view of yourself !
I agree with your view on political art. But just look at the state they have left the place !
could they not had a little more respect for their comunity, their message and the general enviriment? they could have painted the backgroud , centraly placed and framed the senceling..you know been tasteful and thoughtful...instead they have demeaned the message by using it like a piece of vandelism.

[Comrade Ryan]

Why do you always have to get with the personal ? you must have a huge ego and an inflated view of yourself !
I agree with your view on political art. But just look at the state they have left the place !
could they not had a little more respect for their comunity, their message and the general enviriment? they could have painted the backgroud , centraly placed and framed the senceling..you know been tasteful and thoughtful...instead they have demeaned the message by using it like a piece of vandelism.

I'm not getting personal i' just pointing out the facts.

The movement you claim to be aligned to did and does use similiar mediums to convey their messages.

It is a long a proud tradition.

You're the one nit-picking and being being petty.

It was a good job well-done in my opinion.

PS. Still waiting on you producing the goods on the allegations levelled at me or issue an unreserved apology.

[Hessian Peel]

They function almost exactly as middle class used to function before globalisation. They're the very ones that enable the Imperial system and give it its legitamacy. Everybody likes to think they're the oppressed though it seems and they get quare upset when you point out the facts.

It's a valid point, but workers who sell their labour to capitalists and do not control the fruits of that labour are still oppressed. Ireland is definitely a good example of the changes neo-liberal imperialism has brought to the class systems in exploiter nations and there was very little industrialisation to begin with, besides the North East of the country. So basically the means of production exist outside of Ireland. This undoubtedly makes the task of constructing socialism an awful lot harder. In fact it would be deemed impossible in traditional Marxist thinking.

[manus1916]

well done to all involved

[Vox Illuminati]

Direct and to the point. Good work.

[Hessian Peel]

Great stencils by the by. :eusa_clap:

[focail amhain]

The stencils were designed to be simple and to the point. Graffiti, by the very nature of it, is simplistic; anyone with a twitter of wit would know that. As for complaints about the locations, it is very difficult to find anywhere in west Belfast that is without existing graffiti.

Foyleview displays a naivety which exposes his ignorance of political activism, and of how such things are done.

[conghaileach]

Although the stencil relating to the ownership of the wealth is simplistic. In April 2003 the average industrial wage (before tax) in Northern Ireland was £19,416 (1), this means that the average worker in the north is in the 4.4% of the world's richest people. (2)

Although the people of Ireland are indeed part of the global North, poverty still exists in this country. The statistic being quoted is still accurate.

And while it's correct to say that many workers in the developed world want iPods, holidays in the sun, etc. etc., a lot of this new wealth is based on credit as opposed to real wealth. This credit culture isn't feasible in the short term nevermind the long term, as the credit crunch and the housing crises have shown.

[belfast 1916]

well done eirigi, been driving up and down the road and seen quite afew of them:bow::bow::eusa_clap:

[wherenow]

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TA n[ios mó san Bhreatain Bheag freisin.

There's more in Wales as well.

[conghaileach]

TA n[ios mó san Bhreatain Bheag freisin.

There's more in Wales as well.

With the Welsh being British and all that.

[Hessian Peel]

TA n[ios mó san Bhreatain Bheag freisin.

There's more in Wales as well.

Poor attempt at humour?

[Foyleview]

I'm not getting personal i' just pointing out the facts.

The movement you claim to be aligned to did and does use similiar mediums to convey their messages.

It is a long a proud tradition.

You're the one nit-picking and being being petty.

It was a good job well-done in my opinion.

PS. Still waiting on you producing the goods on the allegations levelled at me or issue an unreserved apology.


Not sure what you are talking about ? but take a big deap breath-hold it and i ll get back to you.

[Comrade Ryan]

Not sure what you are talking about ? but take a big deap breath-hold it and i ll get back to you.

remember the little thing of accusing me and others of calling for murder, etc, etc.

You were to get back to me with proof or an apology - still haven't seen either.

[neilhere]

The stencils were designed to be simple and to the point. Graffiti, by the very nature of it, is simplistic; anyone with a twitter of wit would know that. As for complaints about the locations, it is very difficult to find anywhere in west Belfast that is without existing graffiti.

Foyleview displays a naivety which exposes his ignorance of political activism, and of how such things are done.

Well Said! His Naivety of all things republican really does beg the question, why does he still post on a Republican forum?

[neilhere]

they could have painted the backgroud , centraly placed and framed the senceling..you know been tasteful and thoughtful...instead they have demeaned the message by using it like a piece of vandelism.

I think you have been watching too many interior design shows! The stencils look great and are promoting an important message, unlike yourself!

[RisenBelfast]

All,

There's a topic here. Can we please stick to it. Thanks.

[wherenow]

cé tabhactach go bhfuil na saighduiri anois?

How important is the army presence now? Yes, I know they have no right to be here etc but what role are they currently playing. My understanding is that since 2007 they have not been involved in any activity on the streets of the north.

[tireoghan]

cé tabhactach go bhfuil na saighduiri anois?

How important is the army presence now? Yes, I know they have no right to be here etc but what role are they currently playing. My understanding is that since 2007 they have not been involved in any activity on the streets of the north.

The British Army continues to use the occupied six counties as a trainning ground for war. Their helicopters are regualrly seen doing trainning exercises and manovres in the skies of Tyrone, Derry, Armagh and Fermanagh. They are an occupying force here to uphold the British state in Ireland; they may be confined to barracks for the most part but they can be mobilised at the drop of a hat.

Just because you cant see them doesnt mean they arent there.

[focail amhain]

Before the outbreak of the current conflict British troops were barracked in the six-counties. After more than thirty years of violence we have simply returned to the same position. It seems incredulous that some republicans can describe this state of affairs as progress.

The British are more than happy to underwrite the new political dispensation, which does nothing to seriously undermine its position in Ireland. Power sharing leading to normalisation has been the core objective of British state policy since Sunningdale.
Frank Kitson clearly outlined this approach in the nineteen-seventies as the best strategy for defeating Irish republicanism in both political and military terms.

Today, ironically, PSF has bought into Kitsonian project to such an extent that it has abandoned its own ideological roots and historical purpose.

[focail amhain]

Sorry, but I posted this on the wrong thread. Can it be relocated?

[Hildy]

Sorry, but I posted this on the wrong thread. Can it be relocated?

What thread do you want it relocated to, a chara? I'm sure the mods will be happy to oblige. Welcome to the forum, btw!

[focail amhain]

getting confused. seems to be ok. Thanks.

[Emiliano Zapata]

Good work. The one detailing the number of British troops in Ireland was very pleasing to see. Although the stencil relating to the ownership of the wealth is simplistic. In April 2003 the average industrial wage (before tax) in Northern Ireland was £19,416 (1), this means that the average worker in the north is in the 4.4% of the world's richest people. (2)

The left apply the Marxist definition of the working class to the hilt, erstwhile ignoring that the world is a changed place. The 'working class' in the first world are non-revolutionary and the fact that the left pander to this myth of the first world proletariat is a waste of time.

First world workers want iPods and the latest products, third world workers want nourishment, food and shelter and are prepared to stand for it.

1. http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/?id=2004-05-27.175919.h
2. http://www.globalrichlist.com/

I personally find this theory logical, although I don't think it should be carried to the extreme that you do and used to argue that the proletariat has no revolutionary potential and has an objective interesting in maintaining imperialism.

[conghaileach]

I personally find this theory logical, although I don't think it should be carried to the extreme that you do and used to argue that the proletariat has no revolutionary potential and has an objective interesting in maintaining imperialism.

There actually might be a point here. It's been argued within circles dealing with Third World revolutions that the working class of the developed world is for the most part quite comfortable with its role in the system. We can afford to live so well off, relatively speaking, because of the treatment meted out to workers in the developing world. Revolutions in the developing world would upset that balance, corporations would be forced to bring their sweatshops back to the developed countries where the labour isn't so cheap, workers in the developed world would no longer be able to obtain such cheap clothing, etc. and class conflict would become more pronounced in this part of the globe. But it's dependent on workers in the Third World getting up off their knees first. It'd be kind of like the theory of permanent revolution.

[mannix10]

Have to agree with tireoghan - just because they are "confined" to barracks doesn't mean they have gone away. On the subject of them being confined to barracks, why is this so - we continually see on the news that the British Army is severely stretched because of its overseas committments, especially in Iraq and Afghanistan. If they are so stretched, why are over 5,500 British soldiers sitting doing "nothing" in the occupied six counties - just doesn't add up.

Not fooled!

[Na Fianna Éireann]

As an experienced stencil maker (out of card, plastic or wood) , i'm asking my self, where did youse get them done?

They are defo not homemade.

[RisenBelfast]

As an experienced stencil maker (out of card, plastic or wood) , i'm asking my self, where did youse get them done?

They are defo not homemade.

There is a lot of talent in Belfast if you know where to look.

[conghaileach]

As an experienced stencil maker (out of card, plastic or wood) , i'm asking my self, where did youse get them done?

They are defo not homemade.

That's a bold statement, considering that the only way you could know that they definitely weren't homemade would be to have seen them being made. And if you saw them being made, there would be no questions about how they were made.

[RisenBelfast]

That's a bold statement, considering that the only way you could know that they definitely weren't homemade would be to have seen them being made. And if you saw them being made, there would be no questions about how they were made.

Don't mention the balls up that was made of the first batch. I prefer people thinking of éirígí as faultless well resourced agitprop kings. Whoops.

[focail amhain]

As an experienced stencil maker (out of card, plastic or wood) , i'm asking my self, where did youse get them done?

They are defo not homemade.

so much nonsense. would people ever wise up.