Ireland is hostile to Israel apparently....

[MarkyMark]

Ireland is politically hostile to Israel

thats according to this article (http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-049-miller.htm) by the Jewish Centre for Public Affairs.

What do you think?

[Nijinsky]

Ireland is politically hostile to Israel

thats according to this article (http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-049-miller.htm) by the Jewish Centre for Public Affairs.

What do you think?


It is both legitimate and just for people to be politically hostile to the state of Israel. It is a manufactured sectarian and racist state that illegally ocupies Palestinian land, is a notorious human rights abusing state and commits War Crimes at will.

[MarkyMark]

I love how one sided their argument for the 2006 war on Lebanon was.

eg: "Since Israel responded to Hizballah's kidnapping of two of its soldiers and bombing of its northern communities, the reaction of Irish politicians of all parties, the Irish Times, and pro-Palestinian NGOs in Ireland has largely been predictable. Like most of its EU partners, the Irish government has called for an immediate cease-fire, condemned Israel's allegedly disproportionate military response, and also appealed to Hizballah to return the kidnapped soldiers and end the shelling of Israeli territory."

Hold on, what were their soldiers doing on Lebanese soil in the first place????

[broche]

lets see two israeli soldiers kidnapped so the israelis murder over a thousand lebanese civilians. they are as bold as brass

[mickyk200]

Ireland hostile to anyone? Sure who could the Irish army actually take on and win?
"get the tank lads" just the one between them all lak =P lol
Seriously, I severally doubt it but we should be!

[Takeshi]

I love how one sided their argument for the 2006 war on Lebanon was.

eg: "Since Israel responded to Hizballah's kidnapping of two of its soldiers and bombing of its northern communities, the reaction of Irish politicians of all parties, the Irish Times, and pro-Palestinian NGOs in Ireland has largely been predictable. Like most of its EU partners, the Irish government has called for an immediate cease-fire, condemned Israel's allegedly disproportionate military response, and also appealed to Hizballah to return the kidnapped soldiers and end the shelling of Israeli territory."

Hold on, what were their soldiers doing on Lebanese soil in the first place????

From wikipedia

The conflict began when Hezbollah militants fired rockets at Israeli border towns as a diversion for an anti-tank missile attack on two armored Humvees patrolling the Israeli side of the border fence

[Calv]

From wikipedia

says it all

[mickyk200]

I wouldn't rely on wikipedia for information, as you know the majority of it's information is supplied by average people which means it is open to bias.

[KillinSnakes]

I wouldn't rely on wikipedia for information, as you know the majority of it's information is supplied by average people which means it is open to bias.

Not even average... how many folks have time on their hands to edit wiki articles? I know I've wanted to, had the inclination, but almost never the time.

Generally more privelaged people with time on their hands edit those sites.

The site has a huge neocon bias. Like the page on US imperialism was so offensive to them that they changed it to 'non-contienental US territorial expansion' or some bizarre euphamism like that. :icon_lol:

A pardoy of wikipedia:
http://www.wikiality.com/Wikiality

[Takeshi]

says it all

It was the first site I found. If you want something from CNN, here it is. It still says the same thing. They were inside Israel when they were attacked.

July 2006: Hezbollah militants cross into Israel, kill three Israeli soldiers and kidnap two others in a bid to negotiate a prisoner exchange, a demand rebuffed by Israel.

[duggie-89]

I wouldn't rely on wikipedia for information, as you know the majority of it's information is supplied by average people which means it is open to bias.

excuse me i am relying on wikipedia to pass my A-levels!! :icon_laugh: :icon_laugh:

[mickyk200]

excuse me i am relying on wikipedia to pass my A-levels!! :icon_laugh: :icon_laugh:
Some articiles can be bias, politics and history articiles and such can be twisted by someone who strongly agrees or disagrees with the subject matter.
Good luck with your A-levels anyway ;]

[Ard Rí]

Damn right theres a lot Irish that are hostile to Israel.
Untill Israel fixes up the situation in Palestine there will always be international opposition.

[BunyipDude]

http://www.christiansstandingwithisrael.com/coxandforkum/06.07.09.PaliBodyArmor-X.gif

[Hildy]

First, the Hamas create a video for children using "Farfur" (Mickey Mouse) to teach them terrorism.......


Hamas Mickey Mouse Teaches Terror to Kids

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi-c6lbFGC4


then they show...........


Israel kills Mickey Mouse lookalike on Hamas children's show

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9lL81QhiR8&feature=related


You be the judge!

[Hildy]

BTW, I've always been told by stringent republicans that they are against Israel because of Palestine.......

But that's like saying, who came first.......the chicken or the egg???:confused: :confused:

[BunyipDude]

I don't exactly support Israel 100%, but I really don't like Hamas.

[jester2207]

Peace 2 Palastine!!! The have always treated me kindly, and i have some i call friends...and i dont have many friends...cept the one in me head, naw i think they have every right to there own say in there own little little country. Leave them alone, stop bulldozing there homes and cage them up and maybee thell stop fireing on Israeli troops...Dii Daa Dii. up the PLO.:eusa_dance:

[Ard Rí]

Those propaganda videos are awful. But I still fully support the movement and cause of the PLO. Its just a shame in the society we live they are forced to use such awful means to achieve their goals.

The Israeli government are evil.

[Hildy]

Those propaganda videos are awful. But I still fully support the movement and cause of the PLO. Its just a shame in the society we live they are forced to use such awful means to achieve their goals.

The Israeli government are evil.

Oh?? and the HAMAS and certain factions of the PLO extremists aren't evil?? All the PLO apologists need to see that there is aggression and terrorism on BOTH sides and look at the problem FROM both sides, instead of "the constant one sided drum beat against Jews?"

Hatred will destroy the Middle East and wipe it off the map. There will never be any peace, tolerance or forgiveness so long as Hatred exists.

Read this, its worth reading!

http://www.zmag.org/content/print_article.cfm?itemID=14184&sectionID=107

[quirk]

Both sides are not equally to blame. Israel illegally occupies Palestinian territory in contravention of United Nations security council resolutions. They are also illegally colonising this territory in contravention to the Geneva convention with the view of annexing it at a future date.. Palestinian resistance is justified under international law.

[FIM-92]

The conflict began when Hezbollah militants fired rockets at Israeli border towns as a diversion for an anti-tank missile attack on two armored Humvees patrolling the Israeli side of the border fence
Bull****. The conflict began long before. The kidnap was simply something the Israelis reacted to with a totally disproportionate response.

[FTA69]

Those propaganda videos are awful. But I still fully support the movement and cause of the PLO. Its just a shame in the society we live they are forced to use such awful means to achieve their goals.


That having been said the PLO are unbelievably corrupt and are often more concerned with lining their own pockets. Hamas may be off the wall a small bit, but at least they have integrity, perform a wide variety of community services and at the end of the day, won the election fairly. Of course that didn't satisfy the PLO who felt the need to try and attack Hamas.

[karlmarx]

I think you are forgeting the fact that isreil dosn't have the right to exsist thay are built on stolen lands. and its not like the usa whare thare is almost no one to give land back to the palistinins are still thare some even still have thare house keys http://youtube.com/watch?v=ciHRtSwzV-k

[MarkyMark]

Bull****. The conflict began long before. The kidnap was simply something the Israelis reacted to with a totally disproportionate response.


they also fail to mention that the Israelis who were killed or captured were in fact ambushed in the Sheeba farms area, which is considered Lebanese territory under Israeli occupation

[Admiral William Brown]

Im hostile to any country that occupys anothers land so brutally

FREE PALESTINE

[Comrade Ryan]

This post demonstrates the gap between Irish Republicans and Irish american Republicans.

Irelands right to national self-determination and freedom is sacrosanct but that of the Palestinians...well...aghhh...not so much.

Hence why the movement used to have one paper for Ireland and one for the states, which would omit comment on Palestine, Cuba, Nicaragua, etc, any progressive struggle that the yanks didn't care for really.

[BunyipDude]

This post demonstrates the gap between Irish Republicans and Irish american Republicans.

Irelands right to national self-determination and freedom is sacrosanct but that of the Palestinians...well...aghhh...not so much.

Hence why the movement used to have one paper for Ireland and one for the states, which would omit comment on Palestine, Cuba, Nicaragua, etc, any progressive struggle that the yanks didn't care for really.

No, I agree with you completely that it's a fundamental contradiction for Irish-Americans to say they sympathize with the IRA on one hand, then say they don't support the Pals or the Sandinistas on the other.

Then again, I am not an Irish Republican.

[jester2207]

American Republicans are not the same as Irish Republicans. US Rep are way more to the conservitive, feed the rich, right on the scale. Irish Republicans being mostly Socialist or Communist are more to the left, like democrats but keep going left. i personally dont really like the US Republicans or the Democrats, there both ******s. and bush is "King" Wank.

[Comrade Ryan]

No, I agree with you completely that it's a fundamental contradiction for Irish-Americans to say they sympathize with the IRA on one hand, then say they don't support the Pals or the Sandinistas on the other.

Then again, I am not an Irish Republican.

Just looked at you preferred party comment.

Why do you come here exactly?

Did you get lost?

Because the States is that'a way? ------->

[Comrade Ryan]

American Republicans are not the same as Irish Republicans. US Rep are way more to the conservitive, feed the rich, right on the scale. Irish Republicans being mostly Socialist or Communist are more to the left, like democrats but keep going left. i personally dont really like the US Republicans or the Democrats, there both ******s. and bush is "King" Wank.

Just in case this was directed at me, i'm fully aware that Irish Republicans are fundamentally different and in their modern versions are polar opposites.

I was reffering to Americans who proclaim to be Irish Republicans, supportive of Irish Republicanism. Some are sound, but in my first-hand expereince, most of them are twats whom if they lived here, or us there, would be our enemies.

[jester2207]

wasnt directed at you mate or anybuddy, just my two cents. but i was born and raised in america, am Irish and a Republican, most Irish americans are twats. they get real Irish on St. Patricks day but coudnt tell ya the first thing bout the emerald isle. but not all of are twats, or imperialist pigs, some of us just trying to make it the best we can here too.
and on the other note, Bunny why are you here? you hafnt fininshed yer paper yet?