INLA informer has left Derry

[quirk]

INLA 'informer' has left Derry

By Staff reporter
The man at the centre of last week's claims that an informer had been discovered within the ranks of the INLA in Derry has left the city, according to the IRSP.
Last week, the INLA in Derry claimed they had discovered that a former senior member of the organisation in Derry had been working for MI5 and the RUC Special Branch as a paid agent since 1985.

The ‘Journal’ has learned that the man has now left Derry and is now living in England.

The man at the centre of the allegations was believed to have been a key figure in both the INLA and the IRSP since the early 1980s.

Last week, an INLA source in Derry said the man, thought to be from the Carnhill area, had been meeting with his MI5 and Special Branch handlers as often as twice a week for over twenty years to pass on information about the activities of the republican socialist movement. As well as passing information about INLA operations in Derry, it is also believed that he gave details of the political activities of the IRSP.

The source also said the man was being “debriefed” by his former associates and was
giving a full account of his dealings with British intelligence operatives.

An IRSP spokesperson confirmed that the man had left the city. “He is believed to be now living somewhere in England. He left Derry during the last week. Before he left he co-operated fully and made a full disclosure to the IRSP of all the information he passed to his British handlers over the years,” the IRSP spokesperson said.

It is believed that the family of the alleged informer are still in Derry and have been visited by representatives of the republican socialist movement. “Members of the republican socialist movement have been to see them after the discovery that he was working as an informer to assure them that they are under no threat whatsoever,” he added.

In previous years, members of paramilitary organisations who were accused of being informers were usually shot dead or exiled from their homes.

http://www.derryjournal.com/journal/INLA-39informer39-has-left-Derry.3261791.jp

[JPL]

Hey hey hey, goodbye.

Got off lightly IMO!

[FreeDerry81]

your not even jokin! :yes:

[Erin_go_bragh]

Hmm, still seems awful close to home.

[ártybhoy]

Some "Debriefing" that was, 20 years of meeting twice a week probably a lot more when things where bad the volunteers he sent to jail or down a hole all sorted out in a couple of weeks?
Had to have got him months ago i'd think.

[andreas]

How long did the bon jovi's have Donaldson? or scap for that matter?

[ártybhoy]

How long did the bon jovi's have Donaldson? or scap for that matter?
I give in how long.

[andreas]

As long. Except in Scap's case.

[ártybhoy]

They should get tortured (all of them) to such an extent they tell everything not to the point they start making anything up for it to stop.

[Mellows1922]

They should get tortured (all of them) to such an extent they tell everything not to the point they start making anything up for it to stop.

lol, torture, but not extreme torture !

[FreeDerry81]

what makes them turn their back on their country so easy for so long or forever?

it can't be the money. No sum of money can take the love of your country away from you. But somehow these runts stoop to that level and think that it's acceptable to place young men and women inside jails for most of their lives, while they get payed for it. Torture sounds like an idea alright, or burn the ****s.

[andreas]

What, like scap? or Denis for that matter. I wouldn't like to state my opinion on torture but in both cases the provos were either unable (scap) or unwilling (Denis) so, what is the answer.

[andreas]

They should get tortured (all of them) to such an extent they tell everything not to the point they start making anything up for it to stop.
last post to the above.

[ártybhoy]

lol, torture, but not extreme torture !
Thats it mucker lol, no chainsaws,boltcutters that sort of messy afairs.
Water drip on the forehead wet cloth wraped around the mouth and nose lol

[Irish Republican Patriot]

They should all be tortured simply as punishment (as well as for interrogation) before being executed.

[Joseph Pariah]

The sad thing is a lot of you probably aren't joking. It’s 2007 not 1207. Torture of anyone, no matter what they've done, is unacceptable and should be abhorred by all. I think the IRSM handled this whole affair very well.

[OutOfContext]

what makes them turn their back on their country so easy for so long or forever?

it can't be the money. No sum of money can take the love of your country away from you. But somehow these runts stoop to that level and think that it's acceptable to place young men and women inside jails for most of their lives, while they get payed for it. Torture sounds like an idea alright, or burn the ****s.

It's fear of prosecution in most cases I believe. Threats being made by the security forces towards them personally, and their families are usually made. They will also tell you they plan on telling people in your area you're a tout, and that you'll be exiled from the movement.

This is usually enough to make them sing in most cases I'd imagine.

[scarface]

what makes them turn their back on their country so easy for so long or forever?

it can't be the money. No sum of money can take the love of your country away from you. But somehow these runts stoop to that level and think that it's acceptable to place young men and women inside jails for most of their lives, while they get payed for it. Torture sounds like an idea alright, or burn the ****s.

a lot of the time people have done something wrong in their personal life e.g an affair and the brits find out about it and use it as leverage it can be drink related aswell

[OutOfContext]

a lot of the time people have done something wrong in their personal life e.g an affair and the brits find out about it and use it as leverage it can be drink related aswell

both excellent examples.

[Irish Republican Patriot]

Are we all agreed that in all cases informing, collaboration and treachery are never justified and should always be punished severely?

[Joseph Pariah]

Yes, but what has torture got to do with that?

[Erin_go_bragh]

I dont agree with torture myself. A bullet to the head would suffice in my opinion.

[quirk]

http://www.thebigtickle.com/russia/stinger/images/09.jpg

John Hogan the Informer.

[quirk]

Are we all agreed that in all cases informing, collaboration and treachery are never justified and should always be punished severely?

Each case had to be looked at individually. If you are out for pure revenge then torture followed by execution is what you would do, however if you seek to strengthen republicanism and guard against this then it wouldn't be the case.

[Erin_go_bragh]

http://www.thebigtickle.com/russia/stinger/images/09.jpg

John Hogan the Informer.

Is that the new INLA in parade dress uniform?

[Vox Populi]

This is a very serious issue as you may appreciate Erin Go Bragh in which people may have been murdered or sent to prison for lengthy spells through the activities of this man. I am also led to believe John Hogan's brother was an informer within the Provisionals that was responsible for the imprisonment of IRA Volunteers, certainly that may suggest an event within the family triggered MI5 to seize the oppurtunity.

The picture is indeed John Hogan though.

[Erin_go_bragh]

Ofcourse. What i meant to say was "why is he in a soviet officers uniform ?

[Vox Populi]

He starred in a locally produced film on the war in Afghanistan set in the late 80s.

[lynchbhoy]

no torture
not talk
these people know the consequnces
Its qiute hard for some as their families are often the targets and involved as part of their deals
but
they know if they go to the republicans with their problems , it will be fixed

in this instance
the only answer is kneecappping at best
a bullett in the head at worst
thats life
thats the price of trechary

[derrybhoy72]

hang him up by his balls he lived in the same square as me in Carnhill and his family are still walking round as if nothing has happened. one tout is bad but two from the same family is unbelivable .

[quirk]

hang him up by his balls he lived in the same square as me in Carnhill and his family are still walking round as if nothing has happened. one tout is bad but two from the same family is unbelivable .

What has it got to do withhis family? Do you think they should be made to suffer?

[derrybhoy72]

not his whole family just his wife i have lived beside them for years. his wife Jean has been tormenting any young people who have moved into our street for years
protesting outside peoples houses because there children have been playing football or they have had a party and all with the backing of her TOUT husband.

[Erin_go_bragh]

not his whole family just his wife i have lived beside them for years. his wife Jean has been tormenting any young people who have moved into our street for years
protesting outside peoples houses because there children have been playing football or they have had a party and all with the backing of her TOUT husband.


She wanted to keep the noise down becuase you had a few loud houseparties. So what? At the end of the day she wasn't trying to infiltrate a republican organisation and relay that information to the Brits. Same for their kids, im sure they are going through enough right now.

[derrybhoy72]

no she was responsable for some young familys being put out of there houses because there children happened to be playing football in the street something we have all done as children if people are having partys and disrupting the other people in the street i would be the first to say get them out but as a perent myself children have to grow up and with the problems with drugs in Derry i would rather have mine in the back square were i can watch them .

[Nijinsky]

no she was responsable for some young familys being put out of there houses because there children happened to be playing football in the street something we have all done as children if people are having partys and disrupting the other people in the street i would be the first to say get them out but as a perent myself children have to grow up and with the problems with drugs in Derry i would rather have mine in the back square were i can watch them .

How was she responsible and who put these familys out of their houses?

[derrybhoy72]

her and her husband backed by some of there friends who by the way are not even from the area held protests outside the houses until the familys moved by themselves or the landlord evicted the familys now if they were bad familys i could understand why but i have lived in carnhill for 17 years i have brought up my two children now 16 and 15 and anyone from derry will tell you that carnhill is not what you would call a bad area

the point i was trying to make but not very well lol is that a man now expelled from the country for being a tout use to put people out of there houses because there children made a bit of noise

and by the way John Hogan does not have any children