Adams Offer

[Liam Lynch]

Is this initiative dead? And if so why? (http://youtube.com/watch?v=jWMvnhFRc38)

[duggie-89]

wel der ave been death threats made agaisnt him but i am not sure

[Calv]

didn't they refuse?

[conghaileach]

He made the offer around the time of the policing debates, shortly before SF's Extraordinary Ard Fheis, basically to challenge them I think on what genuine alternative they offered. I doubt the invitation is still open.

[Calv]

found this article from a while back

http://www.derryjournal.com/journal/Cool-response-to-Adams39-offer.1982429.jp

[Erin_go_bragh]

What would be the point anyway? There's no way the sepratisit republicans would think about abandoning their armed struggle.

[Daithí]

I don't see why the invitation would'nt be open.
Let's face it people will give out either way :p

[ciaranxavier]

I don't see why the invitation would'nt be open.
Let's face it people will give out either way :p

time will prove u wrong shinner.

[Seabird]

please move this to the shinner section thanks

[scarface]

the offer was a pointless publicity stunt

[Joseph Pariah]

I agree with Scarface; Adams' words were completely hollow. If he really wanted to open dialogue with RSF, 32 CSM or the RSM (although I don't see what there is to discuss) he'd have no problem in doing so. It was simply another attempt to blacken the image of Republicans by making them look uncooperative and stubborn.

One should remember that around the same time as that press conference Adams & Co. were claiming the INLA were planning to assassinate them, which was also a complete lie. But what can you expect from a man who has made a career out of lying.

[Irish Republican Patriot]

You never know, he might have done it out of desperation...

[Liam Lynch]

the offer was a pointless publicity stunt

But the point is he felt compelled to issue it. Are there other issues out there which properly articulated can compel PSF and others to seek engagement with us?

[quirk]

If he really wanted to open dialogue with RSF, 32 CSM or the RSM (although I don't see what there is to discuss) he'd have no problem in doing so.

He claimed that he wanted to meet the RIRA, CIRA and INLA. Now as these are "illegal" organisations I believe that making the announcement publicaly did in fact straight away rule out such a meeting,. This is something I am sure Adams would have ben aware of and with this in mind I don't think his offer was genuine.

[Daithí]

If he really wanted to open dialogue with RSF, 32 CSM or the RSM (although I don't see what there is to discuss) he'd have no problem in doing so.
Sinn Fein already have made contact with these movements.
There's nothing fake about this offer.

[Liam Lynch]

Sinn Fein already have made contact with these movements.
There's nothing fake about this offer.

Perhaps, but it should be noted that 32CSM sought engagement with PSF in 2005. When this was pointed out to Adams he fumbled the ball, cobbled together an excuse about their reply being lost in the post and was now wrong footed as to the basis of any engagement he was now proposing. He certainly intended to set the terms for any meeting but when the 32CSM agreed to meet on the basis of our original invitation the initiative seemed to wither. Either way the point remains that there are issues which can be campaigned upon by republicans which can force an establishment response.

[Liam Lynch]

I agree with Scarface; Adams' words were completely hollow. If he really wanted to open dialogue with RSF, 32 CSM or the RSM (although I don't see what there is to discuss) he'd have no problem in doing so. It was simply another attempt to blacken the image of Republicans by making them look uncooperative and stubborn.

One should remember that around the same time as that press conference Adams & Co. were claiming the INLA were planning to assassinate them, which was also a complete lie. But what can you expect from a man who has made a career out of lying.

But the issue to concentrate on were not his hollow words but the political reasons as to why he felt compelled to utter them.

[Dílseacht]

Sinn Fein already have made contact with these movements.
There's nothing fake about this offer.

Thats is true and the channels of communication that are open were always open!!!

So WHAT exactly was the reasoning behind the public announcement??

[Liam Lynch]

Thats is true and the channels of communication that are open were always open!!!

So WHAT exactly was the reasoning behind the public announcement??

That could only be exposed by meeting him.

[DublinRepublican]

Mr. Adams knows if he wanted to meet reps from these groups he would not have to announce it publicly. There are obviously back channels which he could use.

[Liam Lynch]

Mr. Adams knows if he wanted to meet reps from these groups he would not have to announce it publicly. There are obviously back channels which he could use.

So why didn't he? Why did he feel compelled to publicly announce it? Up to that point he was content with ignoring us. When the 32CSM sent PSF our Submission to them the prevailing thought concerning it was that to respond to it was to afford us a publicity they felt we didn't deserve. Why the change of heart?

[Carlos McJackle]

But the issue to concentrate on were not his hollow words but the political reasons as to why he felt compelled to utter them.

precisely

[Vox Populi]

found this article from a while back

http://www.derryjournal.com/journal/Cool-response-to-Adams39-offer.1982429.jp
IRSP have offered to meet the leadership of Sinn Féin numerous times. They have been refused the oppurtunity to do so.

The issue is not with the INLA. Why would Gerry Adams need to convince the INLA of anything? It's a clever way of trying to lump the INLA in with the RIRA and CIRA and vice versa.

The IRSP is the voice of the movement, there is no reason for Adams or anyone else to meet the INLA. The truth behind the whole situation was laid bare in Toome.

[Cael]

If Sinn Féin has any reason to speak to the the English government, it will do so directly. There is no reason why the Republican Movement would wish to meet junior Crown, offshore, employees like Gerry Adams.