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quirk
11-07-2007, 10:05 PM
South Armagh 32CSM deny anti agreement republican involvement in Quinn murder.

The South Armagh branch of the 32 County Sovereignty Movement have been made aware of a whispering campaign in the area insinuating that anti agreement republicans may have been involved in the brutal murder of Cullyhana man Paul Quinn on Saturday 20th October. Following discussions with members of the republican movement in the area The 32 County Sovereignty Movement can categorically deny any republican involvement in this crime. The attempt to apportion blame to anti agreement republicanism is nothing more than a pathetic attempt to try and deflect attention from the real perpetrators and an attempt to sully the name of republican separatism. Thankfully the people of Cullyhana and surrounding areas are aware of the truth behind these baseless rumours.

South Armagh has long been respected as a place of resistance to English law and its freedom fighters are rightfully lauded throughout the world. Those that carried out the hideous murder of Paul Quinn have nothing in common with our noble tradition and whatever law they thought they were upholding it was certainly not republican law nor the will of the people.

http://www.southarmagh32.blogspot.com

andreas
11-07-2007, 10:41 PM
Had heard a few people trying to link 'dissidents' to it. Fair play to South Armagh 32CSM for putting the record straight. Seems like they took their time to find out what did happen rather than bleating 'there was no republican involvment' before anyone knew what had happened.

quirk
11-14-2007, 04:57 PM
The following was carried in yesterdays Newry Democrat and the statement in full was carried in the Cross Examiner:

RIRA group denies Quinn murder link

Mr Quinn, 21, was beaten to death by a masked gang after being lured to a remote farmhouse in Co Monaghan. In the immediate aftermath of the murder, his family blamed the Provisional IRA and claimed that the victim had become involved in disputes with, and been threatened by, individuals with links to the organisation in the weeks before his death.

Now, however, a spokesman for the south Armagh branch of the 32 County Sovereignty Movement has alleged that what he described as a whispering campaign is trying to link groups opposed to the Good Friday Agreement to the killing. Rejecting the suggestion, the spokesman “categorically denied any republican involvement in this crime”.

“The attempt to apportion blame to anti-Agreement republicanism is nothing more than a pathetic attempt to deflect attention from the real perpetrators and an attempt to sully the name of republican separatism,” he insisted.

“Thankfully, the people of Cullyhanna and the surrounding areas are aware of the truth behind these baseless rumours.” Those behind the murder have nothing in common with south Armagh’s “noble tradition as a place of resistance to English law”, the spokesman added. “Whatever law they thought they were upholding, it was certainly not republican law or the will of the people,” he stated.

Meanwhile, the SDLP’s Newry and Armagh MLA Dominic Bradley has rejected criticism of the investigation into Mr Quinn’s murder from his Ulster Unionist counterpart Danny Kennedy.

Mr Kennedy had expressed concern after Gardaí were allowed to carry out enquiries in the Cullyhanna area, claiming that the development would undermine the authority of the PSNI.

According to Mr Bradley, the decision to allow Garda officers to cross the border was good practice and evidence of close co-operation between the two police forces.

“It is disingenuous of Mr Kennedy to make these comments in the midst of this very serious investigation,” he commented. “The priority for all politicians at this particular time should be the apprehension of those responsible for Paul Quinn’s murder and not petty political point scoring.

“What Mr Kennedy should be doing is encouraging the public to co-operate fully with the investigation by bringing any information which may be of use to the enquiry to either the Gardaí or the PSNI. It is ironic that only a few weeks ago, Mr Kennedy was calling for hot pursuit by the PSNI across the border. These two issues are closely related and he can’t have it both ways.”

http://www.newrydemocrat.com/news/story/?trs=idmhojmh&cat=news

march of the beggars
11-14-2007, 06:16 PM
Had heard a few people trying to link 'dissidents' to it. Fair play to South Armagh 32CSM for putting the record straight. Seems like they took their time to find out what did happen rather than bleating 'there was no republican involvment' before anyone knew what had happened.

No! 32csm shouldnt have even rose to this, the world knows it was the provos. But of course they will try and palm it off on republicans.

Calv
11-14-2007, 07:10 PM
No! 32csm shouldnt have even rose to this, the world knows it was the provos. But of course they will try and palm it off on republicans.

where's the evidence then? oh that's right, Willie Frazer and Lord Laird says so, wise up.

march of the beggars
11-14-2007, 07:15 PM
[QUOTE=Calv;26126]where's the evidence then? oh that's right, Willie Frazer and Lord Laird says so, wise up.[/QUOTE}

Ha Ha, do you think they are the only ones saying it.:icon_laugh:

Calv
11-14-2007, 07:22 PM
where's the evidence then? oh that's right, Willie Frazer and Lord Laird says so, wise up.

Ha Ha, do you think they are the only ones saying it.:icon_laugh:

did i say they were? it seems though that since they have come out with blaming the IRA everyone has jumped on the bandwagon and gone along with it. now can you answer my original question please?

march of the beggars
11-14-2007, 07:32 PM
did i say they were? it seems though that since they have come out with blaming the IRA everyone has jumped on the bandwagon and gone along with it. now can you answer my original question please?

:hmmm: Right! when you say you want evidence before we can run with the fact that the provos did it (the belief of the people of Cullyhana).
What exactly do you want me to produce here? Fingerprints? DNA samples? eyewitness accounts?. Should i have coorborating evidence?
Perhaps you would like us to register the quinn family onto this board so you can cross reference their accounts?..........
And you tell me to wise up.

Calv
11-14-2007, 07:34 PM
:hmmm: Right! when you say you want evidence before we can run with the fact that the provos did it (the belief of the people of Cullyhana).
What exactly do you want me to produce here? Fingerprints? DNA samples? eyewitness accounts?. Should i have coorborating evidence?
Perhaps you would like us to register the quinn family onto this board so you can cross reference their accounts?..........
And you tell me to wise up.

i dont want you to produce anything, for the simple fact you cant, since there is no evidence.

Carlos McJackle
11-14-2007, 09:42 PM
i dont want you to produce anything, for the simple fact you cant, since there is no evidence.


of course not , you obviously wanted him to say that the only group of people running around south armagh hacking young men whove stood up to them to pieces with nail studded baseball bats and iron bars didnt murder this young man who stood up for himself , with nail studded bats and iron bars . And that conor murphy is a completely believable politicians and the people of cullyhanna are all liars .

Carlos McJackle
11-14-2007, 09:43 PM
i dont want you to produce anything, for the simple fact you cant, since there is no evidence.

apart from 3 eyewitneses

Calv
11-14-2007, 10:05 PM
apart from 3 eyewitneses

well that's news to me, if there were eye witnesses why aren't they going to the police? im not justifying this attack, im just as much digusted with it as you are, but i am not going to jump to conclusion and blame the IRA when there is no evidence it was them.

quirk
11-14-2007, 10:07 PM
well that's news to me, if there were eye witnesses why aren't they going to the police? im not justifying this attack, im just as much digusted with it as you are, but i am not going to jump to conclusion and blame the IRA when there is no evidence it was them.

The survivors are the eye witnesses. What they witnessed is also I would think what the Quinn family are basing their accusations upon.

Bear
11-14-2007, 10:10 PM
"nail studded bats and iron bars" Seriously like?
8 big lads with no balls.

Calv
11-14-2007, 10:27 PM
The survivors are the eye witnesses. What they witnessed is also I would think what the Quinn family are basing their accusations upon.

i don't understand what you mean?

quirk
11-14-2007, 10:29 PM
i don't understand what you mean?

His friends who were forced to phone him and lure him to where he was murdered. They are the witnesses carlos was speaking off.

Calv
11-14-2007, 11:09 PM
His friends who were forced to phone him and lure him to where he was murdered. They are the witnesses carlos was speaking off.

what do you think they should do then?

quirk
11-14-2007, 11:23 PM
what do you think they should do then?

Doesn't matter what I think. They have already spoken to the cops.

Calv
11-14-2007, 11:27 PM
Doesn't matter what I think. They have already spoken to the cops.

good i hope his killers are brought to justice, but until it is proven that it was members of the IRA i will still stick to my word and beleive they were not involved.

just out of interest, do you agree they should have gone to the police?

Bear
11-14-2007, 11:29 PM
its some irony is it not

quirk
11-14-2007, 11:29 PM
good i hope his killers are brought to justice, but until it is proven that it was members of the IRA i will still stick to my word and beleive they were not involved.

just out of interest, do you agree they should have gone to the police?

No I personally wouldn't have went to the cops however I wouldn't judge them for doing so.

Calv
11-14-2007, 11:34 PM
its some irony is it not

how?

Bear
11-14-2007, 11:41 PM
perhaps sinn fein will have provided the rope that eventually hangs them.
I wish the Quinn family justice. It was a dispicable act.