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Liam Lynch
11-29-2007, 09:26 PM
Do OSF ever comment or engage in debate on their own posts here, or elsewhere? Should the Mods not consider a ban on statement posting without proper debate from the poster?

Jim
11-29-2007, 09:30 PM
It would be a good idea if the mods got tighter on this sort of thing.

Koneko
11-29-2007, 09:35 PM
There is nothing to warrant a ban, any organisation is free to post statements.

Liam Lynch
11-29-2007, 09:41 PM
There is nothing to warrant a ban, any organisation is free to post statements.

But not debate them? That undermines the Forum in my view.

Erin_go_bragh
11-29-2007, 09:42 PM
But not debate them? That undermines the Forum in my view.
High ranking members of Ogra post the odd time.

Koneko
11-29-2007, 09:44 PM
This forum is censorship free

Liam Lynch
11-29-2007, 09:45 PM
I don't doubt it, but if you look back at the Posts/Statements OSF makes they tend to end after one or two responses, and usually not fro OSF, it seems.

Liam Lynch
11-29-2007, 09:45 PM
This forum is censorship free

Of course, as it should be abuse free.

FTA69
11-29-2007, 11:16 PM
The Ógra PRO posts statements such as these to a select amount of political forums eg politics.ie. What harm, a lot of people here post statements form a variety of organisations, if anything it is done for imformative purposes. If you don't like it, don't read it.

McDaid--1916
11-30-2007, 08:20 AM
The Ógra PRO posts statements such as these to a select amount of political forums eg politics.ie. What harm, a lot of people here post statements form a variety of organisations, if anything it is done for imformative purposes. If you don't like it, don't read it.


Hear hear

Erin_go_bragh
11-30-2007, 08:32 AM
Hear hear

Thats some banner you got there Mr McDaid.

McDaid--1916
11-30-2007, 11:08 AM
Thats some banner you got there Mr McDaid.

Do you like it lol..
Made it meself:D:eusa_dance:

Comrade Ryan
11-30-2007, 11:12 AM
Little sectarican sounding no?

Particularly for a SF activist.

Whatever would your hometown girl Martina Anderson think?

Might be a good letter head for your unionist engagement correspondence...

FTA69
11-30-2007, 11:20 AM
Might be a good letter head for your unionist engagement correspondence...

:icon_lol:

McLiam
11-30-2007, 12:11 PM
For the first few posts I thought you were talking about Official Sinn Fein.

:slap:

duggie-89
11-30-2007, 12:32 PM
:lol: yea v gud banner.

i think OSF posts do start debate but its a pity they dont do more to debate their point but maybe its down to the fact that their posting on behalf of ogra and so it could be hard to debate as everyone has different views and opinions so they might not want to say something on behalf of ogra when ever some ogra members might not agree with what is said.

McDaid--1916
11-30-2007, 05:41 PM
Little sectarican sounding no?

Particularly for a SF activist.

Whatever would your hometown girl Martina Anderson think?

Might be a good letter head for your unionist engagement correspondence...

Firstly, im may be sectarian in some aspects, but im not narrow minded. I take on some unionist engaging activities to broaden my perspective on other cultures. What do you mean particularly for a SF activist?..do you think i should take you seriously, someone who can even spell sectarian?

Well i think Martina would be rather pleased as it could be her in one of those pictures in my banner. I supported the struggle then and i support it now. Well we might as well have it as a letter head because unionists are now sharing devolved power with, basically the IRA.
Sure ill do you a favour and bring it up in my next Ogra Shinn fein meeting..how does that sound?

Mellows1922
11-30-2007, 06:06 PM
Well i think Martina would be rather pleased as it could be her in one of those pictures in my banner. I supported the struggle then and i support it now. Well we might as well have it as a letter head because unionists are now sharing devolved power with, basically the IRA.
Sure ill do you a favour and bring it up in my next Ogra Shinn fein meeting..how does that sound?

It's just the use of the word Catholic, I was uneasy with it myself. The Army were never a Catholic organisation, nor were they fighting a religious war.

Carlos McJackle
12-01-2007, 01:04 AM
The Ógra PRO posts statements such as these to a select amount of political forums eg politics.ie. What harm, a lot of people here post statements form a variety of organisations, if anything it is done for imformative purposes. If you don't like it, don't read it.


but the people who post statements from other organisations hang around to debate the points and clarify the statements . the osf lot dont , or cant .
Liam never said he didnt like the statement , merely complained that they dont stand over them or debate them , or even demonstrate the remotest understanding of them .
as they dont engage on their statements you seem to be saying we should just ignore OSF

FTA69
12-01-2007, 01:23 AM
as they dont engage on their statements you seem to be saying we should just ignore OSF

That's probably your best bet.

Erin_go_bragh
12-02-2007, 01:47 AM
Firstly, im may be sectarian in some aspects, but im not narrow minded. I take on some unionist engaging activities to broaden my perspective on other cultures. What do you mean particularly for a SF activist?..do you think i should take you seriously, someone who can even spell sectarian?

Well i think Martina would be rather pleased as it could be her in one of those pictures in my banner. I supported the struggle then and i support it now. Well we might as well have it as a letter head because unionists are now sharing devolved power with, basically the IRA.
Sure ill do you a favour and bring it up in my next Ogra Shinn fein meeting..how does that sound?

Tell me this, and I dont mean to go off topic but I was meaning to ask, would the majority of Toirise/OSF Doire support a return to armed struggle?

duggie-89
12-02-2007, 07:48 PM
koneko real good avatar there!

FreeDerry81
12-02-2007, 11:30 PM
Tell me this, and I dont mean to go off topic but I was meaning to ask, would the majority of Toirise/OSF Doire support a return to armed struggle?
Look who they are alligned with, a nationalist party actively engaging with the ENEMIES of Ireland, so why would they turn that approach and sack there big wage salary for a 'provo' return to the campaign? they have done the damage by decomissioning (the surrender of shame) whilst the RUC remain armed and trained by the government to imprison, and victimise republicans and the Irish people as a whole.

MarkyMark
12-02-2007, 11:37 PM
but do you actually think the RIRA could drive the brits out of the north?

the provos had them on the run in the early 70's, but from then on it as stalemate

Puddies
12-03-2007, 02:11 AM
Look who they are alligned with, a nationalist party actively engaging with the ENEMIES of Ireland, so why would they turn that approach and sack there big wage salary for a 'provo' return to the campaign? they have done the damage by decomissioning (the surrender of shame) whilst the RUC remain armed and trained by the government to imprison, and victimise republicans and the Irish people as a whole.Just because the official line of their party says one thing doesn't mean that individuals within the party won't question that line or dissent from it in the future. You'll be better off entering into a principled debate with them than you will be calling them names, whether they deserve it or not. If you want the movement to be successful you'll have to win a good portion of these people over somewhere down the line.