32 CSM Respond to Irish News

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32 CSM Respond to Irish News

The 32 County Sovereignty Movement feel it necessary to challenge a number of points raised in the 20th December edition of The Irish News.
As the leading nationalist daily in the six counties The Irish News is in a unique position to influence much of the nationalist community and its editorial of the 20th December creates an impression that has little relation to the situation on the ground, most notably that 'dissidents' in Derry are leading a "Charmed Life". It is well known by republicans in Derry the extent of the harassment aimed at members of our movement in the City. The life our members live is far from charmed. A campaign of physical and verbal abuse has been waged for years by the RUC/PSNI, republican homes are frequently attacked by search squads, traumatising children and destroying property, many republicans live in constant financial hardship due to the fact that their work is constantly disrupted as a result of state harassment as evidenced recently by the brutal attack on Derry republican Gary Donnelly.

The Irish News, in conjunction with the nationalist parties are creating the impression that anti agreement republicans are working for British Intelligence and creating the conditions for a witch hunt by calling for republicans to be arrested and charged. What will it take to satisfy these demands in the absence of evidence, another Seamus Doherty? another Sean Hoey?

It is also ironic that crown minister Martin McGuinness, himself named by many including Denis Faul as an alleged British agent, should claim that those shooting RUC/PSNI personnel are working for British intelligence and asking for information to be passed on...to British intelligence! Surely this is a nonsensical position to take.

We in the 32CSM are convinced that McGuinness and Durkan singing from the same hymn sheet is a co-ordinated effort to misrepresent the situation in the north west and that this effort is a desperate attempt to stem the support that republican separatism enjoys in that area. The British state, through its local representatives or media will not succeed in misrepresenting the republican position.

[Carlos McJackle]

good statement . 2 stormont politicians , both British ministers , calling for people to pass on information to the British on republicans - denounce those republicans as working for the British .
Just days from Christmas , in prisoners month , the sinn fein mesage seems to be a public denunciation of the British forces for not locking up enough republicans .

This is in fact a stooping competiton between both political outfits , and just watch , theyll stoop much lower .

[q9876]

Exactly what is the position on the ground around the north west ?? Is the 32's organised in South Derry ?

[East Tyrone]

good statement . 2 stormont politicians , both British ministers , calling for people to pass on information to the British on republicans - denounce those republicans as working for the British .
Just days from Christmas , in prisoners month , the sinn fein mesage seems to be a public denunciation of the British forces for not locking up enough republicans .

This is in fact a stooping competiton between both political outfits , and just watch , theyll stoop much lower .

Nah, I think the Sinn Féin message is cop the f*ck on and stop putting young people in postions where they will waste their lives in prison. Surely it's not that hard to figure out.

[MartinP]

That's not really their position. It'd be closer to inform on these young people to ensure they go to prison. Do you think the provos give a fock about 'dissidents', who after all consider the provos traitors, going to prison. They'd welcome it. It removes a thorn from their side.

[East Tyrone]

That's not really their position. It'd be closer to inform on these young people to ensure they go to prison. Do you think the provos give a fock about 'dissidents', who after all consider the provos traitors, going to prison. They'd welcome it. It removes a thorn from their side.

Look at me I'm such a victim! Wake up and cop yourself on. I know 2 eejits, one recently released and one on arms charges, who have conto connections. They would be harmfull only to themselves and were clearly mis-led and taken advantage of. Dissidents aren't really a 'thorn in anyones side'; more of an embarrassing stain.

[Liam Lynch]

Look at me I'm such a victim! Wake up and cop yourself on. I know 2 eejits, one recently released and one on arms charges, who have conto connections. They would be harmfull only to themselves and were clearly mis-led and taken advantage of. Dissidents aren't really a 'thorn in anyones side'; more of an embarrassing stain.

So why the call for informers?

[East Tyrone]

So why the call for informers?

I haven't heard one. All I've heard is responsible politicians encourage the population to assist the police in curbing the actions of glorified hoods engaged in anti-social activities.

[Liam Lynch]

I haven't heard one. All I've heard is responsible politicians encourage the population to assist the police in curbing the actions of glorified hoods engaged in anti-social activities.

Well you'll never hear if you fail to the take the Adams Wax out of your ears. Those who call for informers are no better than informers likewise those who make excuses for them.

[Hildy]

Well you'll never hear if you fail to the take the Adams Wax out of your ears. Those who call for informers are no better than informers likewise those who make excuses for them.


Liam, what would you do if your house caught a'fire? Or your mum was mugged, or your children were abused, who would ye call?

[Liam Lynch]

Liam, what would you do if your house caught a'fire? Or your mum was mugged, or your children were abused, who would ye call?

The police. Even an occupying power has a legal obligation to maintain a semblance of order. You do know the difference between a criminal act and an act of insurgency?

[East Tyrone]

Well you'll never hear if you fail to the take the Adams Wax out of your ears. Those who call for informers are no better than informers likewise those who make excuses for them.

If you were to try inhabiting the real world for a wee while you might come to the realisation that there is no place in society for armed gangs; who have a self-appointed divine authority to engage in reckless endangerment against the clearly mandated and democaratic wishes of the entire populace of this island.

[Hildy]

The police. Even an occupying power has a legal obligation to maintain a semblance of order. You do know the difference between a criminal act and an act of insurgency?

Ok, just wondering. So that means they are not "scum" in those occurrences?

[RSF-Fianoglach]

east tyrone its a bit rich of you saying theres no place for armed gangs in society,considering the provos ran around for the last 30 years doing exactly that,bearing in mind both sinn fein and the provos broke the constitution and never had the right to use those names,i believe they might be of the illegal stock you talk about but the CAC is the legal army of the irish republic whether you like it or not.

[East Tyrone]

east tyrone its a bit rich of you saying theres no place for armed gangs in society,considering the provos ran around for the last 30 years doing exactly that,bearing in mind both sinn fein and the provos broke the constitution and never had the right to use those names,i believe they might be of the illegal stock you talk about but the CAC is the legal army of the irish republic whether you like it or not.

The IRA have not been pursuing an armed campaign for many years; if they still were I would not support Sinn Féin. As for the deranged "CAC is the legal army of the Irish Republic" drivel, none but the most inbred, cross-eyed eejits believe in that fairy tale anymore.

[Liam Lynch]

Ok, just wondering. So that means they are not "scum" in those occurrences?

Is that a political term?

[Liam Lynch]

If you were to try inhabiting the real world for a wee while you might come to the realisation that there is no place in society for armed gangs; who have a self-appointed divine authority to engage in reckless endangerment against the clearly mandated and democaratic wishes of the entire populace of this island.

What was it Adams said....the occupation is the mandate.

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Look at me I'm such a victim! Wake up and cop yourself on. I know 2 eejits, one recently released and one on arms charges, who have conto connections. They would be harmfull only to themselves and were clearly mis-led and taken advantage of. Dissidents aren't really a 'thorn in anyones side'; more of an embarrassing stain.

The words dissident and sell out are banned as you know as they have a tendancy to quickly turn threads into arguments.

[Hessian Peel]

If you were to try inhabiting the real world for a wee while you might come to the realisation that there is no place in society for armed gangs; who have a self-appointed divine authority to engage in reckless endangerment against the clearly mandated and democaratic wishes of the entire populace of this island.


I agree. The PIRA should never have been formed.

[East Tyrone]

The words dissident and sell out are banned as you know as they have a tendancy to quickly turn threads into arguments.

Ok, I'll just go with 'armed tw*ts' in future.

[McLiam]

I agree. The PIRA should never have been formed.

And allow the Unionists to follow their pogroms in '69?

Sure, you may disagree with what they have done in the past 15-20 years, but where would we be without them?

[Carlos McJackle]

Ok, I'll just go with 'armed tw*ts' in future.


youll have no objection then to being referred to as just "twat"

[East Tyrone]

I thought the unarmed tw*ts were the 32CSM

[Comrade Ryan]

The IRA have not been pursuing an armed campaign for many years; if they still were I would not support Sinn Féin. As for the deranged "CAC is the legal army of the Irish Republic" drivel, none but the most inbred, cross-eyed eejits believe in that fairy tale anymore.

Just for clarification. Did you support the provisionals during their armed campaign?

[East Tyrone]

Yes I did, mind you I was in my early 20s when it ended.