what do osf do ???

[celticmad1888]

does ogra shinn fein do anything to help get a united ireland n if so how ???

[on_remand]

the SF yoofs are mainly involved in social issues just.

[McDaid--1916]

does ogra shinn fein do anything to help get a united ireland n if so how ???

Ogra Shinn Fein is a radical youth movement set out to help communitys better themselves by reaching out to the youth educating them to see the benefits of having peace and wat they can do to take part in the struggle.

[celticmad1888]

wat u mean tak part in the struggle as sf always say the war is ova n hw wud they help anyway they do fuk all in my oppion

[robertemmett]

barry mc colgan writes loads of press statements about stuff.

[robertemmett]

Ogra Shinn Fein is a radical youth movement set out to help communitys better themselves by reaching out to the youth educating them to see the benefits of having peace and wat they can do to take part in the struggle.

whats radical about them? do you mean "radical" as in "radical, dude!"??

[Foyleview]

wat u mean tak part in the struggle as sf always say the war is ova n hw wud they help anyway they do fuk all in my oppion
i would have thought if you really thought that you would be queing up to join.
it is a great organisation with some quite brilliant people involved in it!
( probably would nt suit you )

[Vox Populi]

Ogra has plenty of rhetoric and very little content, but they're a lot more active and coherent than some of the barely existant anti-GFA youth organisations.

[JPL]

wat u mean tak part in the struggle as sf always say the war is ova n hw wud they help anyway they do fuk all in my oppion

And what do you do?

[JPL]

Ogra has plenty of rhetoric and very little content, but they're a lot more active and coherent than some of the barely existant anti-GFA youth organisations.

Very little content? What do you expect from a youth group? World peace? Third-world debt removal? Let's have a little bit of perspective here.

OSF are very active and campaign alot. They are large in numbers and are good for Ireland.

[Vox Populi]

Very little content? What do you expect from a youth group? World peace? Third-world debt removal? Let's have a little bit of perspective here.

OSF are very active and campaign alot. They are large in numbers and are good for Ireland.Content as in terms of politics, slogans are fine, but they need to have content.

[robertemmett]

Very little content? What do you expect from a youth group? World peace? Third-world debt removal? Let's have a little bit of perspective here.

OSF are very active and campaign alot. They are large in numbers and are good for Ireland.

have they reconciled themselves to daddy psf's policy on supporting the cops?

[Vox Populi]

have they reconciled themselves to daddy psf's policy on supporting the cops?No, the motion at the Ogra special conference was very clear that they would respect the outcome of the SF special Ard Fheis vote.

[JPL]

Content as in terms of politics, slogans are fine, but they need to have content.

You're going to have to expand on that one. Is there anything in particular you feel that they could achieve but are failing to do so. And are any of their peers meeting these targets when OSF is not?

[robertemmett]

No, the motion at the Ogra special conference was very clear that they would respect the outcome of the SF special Ard Fheis vote.

so they are signed up to supporting the cops, despite the osf grouping rejecting the notion?

[Ógra Shinn Féin]

What do Ógra Shinn Féin do?

Well our main role in the struggle is to recruit, educate and campaign.

We aim to popularise the demands laid out in the 1916 Proclamation amongst the youth of today.

If you want to know specifically what Ógra gets up to:

Log onto www.ograshinnfein.blogspot.com, www.osf.ie or www.osf.pro.ie

[robertemmett]

What do Ógra Shinn Féin do?

Well our main role in the struggle is to recruit, educate and campaign.

We aim to popularise the demands laid out in the 1916 Proclamation amongst the youth of today.

If you want to know specifically what Ógra gets up to:

Log onto www.ograshinnfein.blogspot.com, www.osf.ie or www.osf.pro.ie

so you guys are ok with the cops now? you did argue against it at the special ard fheis

[Ógra Shinn Féin]

Robert Emmett, I understand that any debate you have on either SF or ÓSF is neither constructive or worthwhile.

ÓSF's position was made very clear at the time of the Special Ard Fheis. We respected the outcome of the Special Ard Fheis and have continued to work internally on our proposals on policing.

[robertemmett]

proposals on the current policing structure? are you happy with the current oversight of the PSNI?

[Foyleview]

And what do you do?


That is a great question ! I think we both know the answer.

[Foyleview]

so you guys are ok with the cops now? you did argue against it at the special ard fheis

I was at the special Ard Feis. there were alot of people who voted and spoke against the motion. It was a great debate.
But thats what it is to be loyal to organisation and comrades. You have the discussion , you press your point, but , when the vote comes in you accept the verdict and move on.

[robertemmett]

I was at the special Ard Feis. there were alot of people who voted and spoke against the motion. It was a great debate.
But thats what it is to be loyal to organisation and comrades. You have the discussion , you press your point, but , when the vote comes in you accept the verdict and move on.

have they accepted it? the spokeperson on here for ogra claimed,last night, that they were working internally on prosposals for policing.

i asked him what was wrong with the current policing model and why fresh prosposals were needed?

he scarpred.. no doubt to finish some pressing press statements.. you know how he has a quota of the things to meet

[JPL]

Still waiting on a reply from the OP.

[robertemmett]

Still waiting on a reply from the OP.

??:confused:

[JPL]

OP = original poster. I asked him what he was doing. Surely if he's in a position to criticise OSF, then he is obviously achieving something greater.

[McDaid--1916]

wat u mean tak part in the struggle as sf always say the war is ova n hw wud they help anyway they do fuk all in my oppion

The armed campaign is over surely, but the struggle for irish freedom is still with us today and will continue to long after we have a united ireland.

[McDaid--1916]

whats radical about them? do you mean "radical" as in "radical, dude!"??

Radical as in there a youth group which is changing the youth of todays views and perspective to change the mindset that all protestants are bad and change the view that the cops are bad. There hasnt been a youth movement like this so i think thats pretty radical, Dude

[robertemmett]

Radical as in there a youth group which is changing the youth of todays views and perspective to change the mindset that all protestants are bad and change the view that the cops are bad. There hasnt been a youth movement like this so i think thats pretty radical, Dude


so the cops are good?

[McDaid--1916]

so the cops are good?

At the minute there is still a lot to do but SF hope to, in fact will change the attitude of police men and women so that the nationalist/republican community can have confidence in them.

[robertemmett]

At the minute there is still a lot to do but SF hope to, in fact will change the attitude of police men and women so that the nationalist/republican community can have confidence in them.

but you are saying that OGRA is trying to change young peoples' opinion that the cops are bad, but then you say that cops are not good that there is still work to be done.

but ogra carry on telling young people that the cops aren't bad

slightly confusing, you would admit

[McDaid--1916]

but you are saying that OGRA is trying to change young peoples' opinion that the cops are bad, but then you say that cops are not good that there is still work to be done.

but ogra carry on telling young people that the cops aren't bad

slightly confusing, you would admit

They try to tell people that constant attacks on police will not solve of help anything?...
u would agree?..

they try to educate young people as to see that our police for aint exactly wanted in the nationalist/republican community but SF have vowed to change this by joining the police force and moulding the cops in to a police force for all.

why do you continue to argue this? even though it has been outlined time and time before.

[robertemmett]

your changing your tune there McD.

you said that that Ogra tell young people that cops were not "bad", now you are saying that Ogra tell them not to be attacking the cops???

so... lets gets this straight... the cops are still "bad"... but ogra tells young people that they are not?

[McDaid--1916]

your changing your tune there McD.

hardly changing my tune?..two aspects which the youth have to take on in regards to police.

you said that that Ogra tell young people that cops were not "bad", now you are saying that Ogra tell them not to be attacking the cops???

Similar no?

so... lets gets this straight... the cops are still "bad"... but ogra tells young people that they are not?i dont have much faith in the police, i wouldnt expect anyone to have confidence in them but ogra is trying to show the youth that SF move to join policing is only for the better.

Othjere people would like to think there "upholding british rule":redface:

[robertemmett]

hardly changing my tune?..two aspects which the youth have to take on in regards to police.



Similar no?

i dont have much faith in the police, i wouldnt expect anyone to have confidence in them but ogra is trying to show the youth that SF move to join policing is only for the better.

Othjere people would like to think there "upholding british rule":redface:


so you want people to support an organisation that you have no faith in, and have little confidence in?? why on earth would they do that?

[on_remand]

so you want people to support an organisation that you have no faith in, and have little confidence in?? why on earth would they do that?

exactly, these are the type of questions they ignore and wont respond to.

[McDaid--1916]

so you want people to support an organisation that you have no faith in, and have little confidence in?? why on earth would they do that?

I ask them to support our move to try and change this organisation. Do u find something wrong with that?

[robertemmett]

I ask them to support our move to try and change this organisation. Do u find something wrong with that?

to change this organisation..

but i thought it had already been changed. didnt the patten commission suggest all the changes required?

didnt PSF and SDLP try and outdo each other over which of them had secured the most changes to the police.

and didnt psf ard fheis recommend that the party accept the model of policing available in jan 2007?

so you want to futher change the cops?

why?

whats wrong with them still??

:confused:

[McDaid--1916]

to change this organisation..

but i thought it had already been changed. didnt the patten commission suggest all the changes required?

didnt PSF and SDLP try and outdo each other over which of them had secured the most changes to the police.

and didnt psf ard fheis recommend that the party accept the model of policing available in jan 2007?

so you want to futher change the cops?

why?

whats wrong with them still??

:confused:

Do u think the police force is acceptable?

[robertemmett]

Do u think the police force is acceptable?

eh, no. do you? and you havnt answer my query in the post above

[McDaid--1916]

eh, no. do you? and you havnt answer my query in the post above

The fact u dont think there acceptable and the majority of republicans dont think that there acceptable is a good reason for SF to make further changes to the organisation.

[JPL]

I see our OP still hasn't responded.

[McDaid--1916]

I see our OP still hasn't responded.

Indeed.

[robertemmett]

The fact u dont think there acceptable and the majority of republicans dont think that there acceptable is a good reason for SF to make further changes to the organisation.


the vast majority of psf voted in favour of accepting them last january (2007) where have you been??

[robertemmett]

I see our OP still hasn't responded.

he hasnt been online ir.net today, perhaps they work on a saturday? it be different if he was floating about here and not coming on this thread. PM him and invite back here to chat

[Vox Populi]

Radical as in there a youth group which is changing the youth of todays views and perspective to change the mindset that all protestants are bad and change the view that the cops are bad. There hasnt been a youth movement like this so i think thats pretty radical, DudeWhat's radical about that? How do you expect to get a change in property relations out of Leinster House? WHERE ARE OUR REVOLUTIONARY SOCIALISTS?

[Daithí]

anyway they do fuk all in my oppion

What do you do?

[JPL]

What do you do?

Spells every second word wrong, apparently.

[robertemmett]

[quote=JPL;71712]Spells every second word wrong, apparently.[/qu

:whip:jpl, the secret english teacher:whip:

(you are right though:eusa_clap:)

[Foyleview]

have they accepted it? the spokeperson on here for ogra claimed,last night, that they were working internally on prosposals for policing.

i asked him what was wrong with the current policing model and why fresh prosposals were needed?

he scarpred.. no doubt to finish some pressing press statements.. you know how he has a quota of the things to meet

who are you robertemmett ? are you an mi5 plant ? are you a loyalist in discuise ? I notice there is no info in you public profile.
I think all republicans have got to be aware on forums such as these that mi5 and extreme loyalism share the common goal of some unaligned republican groups. Attack the shinners , wreck the shinners, get the croppies to lie down again !

[robertemmett]

christ, now i am MI5 agent. why? cause i have not revealed any of my details on a public website. and you are...? why sherlock holmes!

[McDaid--1916]

who are you robertemmett ? are you an mi5 plant ? are you a loyalist in discuise ? I notice there is no info in you public profile.
I think all republicans have got to be aware on forums such as these that mi5 and extreme loyalism share the common goal of some unaligned republican groups. Attack the shinners , wreck the shinners, get the croppies to lie down again !

Now now everyone has the right to anonymity

[robertemmett]

Now now everyone has the right to anonymity

thanks McD!:bow:

[McDaid--1916]

thanks McD!:bow:

lol..dont mention it:eusa_silenced:

[JPL]

:whip:jpl, the secret english teacher:whip:

(you are right though:eusa_clap:)

;)

JPL's heart is with gaeilge.

[Young Irelander]

Oghra Sinn Fein abu!!!

[robertemmett]

Oghra Sinn Fein abu!!!

and fianna na hEireann??

[kev86]

and fianna na hEireann??

Hes probably never heard of them

[Mellows1922]

Hes probably never heard of them

Along with the majority of the population Kev, and most of those who have heard of them don't see them active in anything other than attending commemorations. You can slag Ogra til your hearts content, but they are active seven days a week, they don't just dust down their activist boots three times a year. Fair play to the youngsters who have the motivation to get involved in Na Fianna, but if you want to get into a contest over youth organisations you're on to a loser.

[Irish Republican Patriot]

christ, now i am MI5 agent. why? cause i have not revealed any of my details on a public website. and you are...? why sherlock holmes!

Never mind RE, his sort are the unrivalled experts at weeding out British agents (stifled laugh). That fella would also know a damn lot more about wanting croppies to lie down than you or I.

[Young Irelander]

Never heard of them, who do you think you are, if you want to compare both organisations, just look at membership, what exactily do they do these days? Absolutley nothing Kev...

[robertemmett]

Never heard of them, who do you think you are, if you want to compare both organisations, just look at membership, what exactily do they do these days? Absolutley nothing Kev...


not a half dozen post ago, you were proclaiming that you didnt need to be told history... time to hoke the old book out again:icon_laugh:

[Mellows1922]

not a half dozen post ago, you were proclaiming that you didnt need to be told history... time to hoke the old book out again:icon_laugh:

you need to reread what he wrote, the first part of the sentence clearly indicates he knows exactly who they are and is asking Kev who he thinks he is to be making assumptions that he wouldn't know.

[Young Irelander]

Thank you Mellows, Robert Emmet is either stupid or ignorant to my previous comment...

[FreeDerry81]

Ogra Shinn Fein is a radical youth movement set out to help communitys better themselves by reaching out to the youth educating them to see the benefits of having peace and wat they can do to take part in the struggle.

aye they reach out to the youth and everything, as if the youth here in Derry takes them on. Pile of ejits!

[McDaid--1916]

aye they reach out to the youth and everything, as if the youth here in Derry takes them on. Pile of ejits!

Those people are the no hopers, the ones who dont see that a political way is the only way at this point in time. They are the one who dont want to help there community, who dont respect there community. If they dont agree with sinn Fein stances that ok but i dont see any other political party having a youth movement which targets youths in particular, surely not one as large as ogra? the numbers of ogra members across ireland on there own proves you wrong sir.

[akelly]

Jist to reply to Free Derry we have ova 20 people in ogra and more in sinn fein and i tink if you look it is us that has the majority of the support in Derry unlke the yahoos running around the bog haha calling themselves freedom fighters and on the weeknds causing most of the chaos in derry, wereas the young people in ogra are responsible and you dont c dem going round starting fights and arguements at republican fuctions and joyriding cars and boosting about it on Bebo we are also the only young people in derry setting out to make a change wer wer u's wen the derry name change issue wuz going on what are you doing to tackle sudices in derry tackling the drug and drink problem in our city ??????

(sorry for any mis-spelling) haha

[Hessian Peel]

i dont see any other political party having a youth movement which targets youths

You're right; the RSYM only focuses on issues that affect the elderly.

The over 60 age bracket is also their main source of recruitment. :slap:

[scarface]

Those people are the no hopers, the ones who dont see that a political way is the only way at this point in time. They are the one who dont want to help there community, who dont respect there community. If they dont agree with sinn Fein stances that ok but i dont see any other political party having a youth movement which targets youths in particular, surely not one as large as ogra? the numbers of ogra members across ireland on there own proves you wrong sir.

I'm starting to think that Connolly house does send out memos to brief their people on the new catchphrases and buzzwords to use 'Death to Coronation Street'

[belfast rep]

I'm starting to think that Connolly house does send out memos to brief their people on the new catchphrases and buzzwords to use 'Death to Coronation Street'

why do we start about catch phrases everytime your answered, its almost become a ................. catchphrase of RSF.
whats wrong highlighing the dangers of promoting alcohol, i wish he had included smoking.
slightly off topic as well, you should know better:)

[belfast rep]

You're right; the RSYM only focuses on issues that affect the elderly.

The over 60 age bracket is also their main source of recruitment. :slap:

they have been stalking me recently

[Hessian Peel]

they have been stalking me recently

It's never too late comrade.

[belfast rep]

It's never too late comrade.
afraid it is,, but i will to give my support when and where i can

[scarface]

why do we start about catch phrases everytime your answered, its almost become a ................. catchphrase of RSF.
whats wrong highlighing the dangers of promoting alcohol, i wish he had included smoking.
slightly off topic as well, you should know better:)

well it's gone well off topic at this stage and there is nothing wrong with highlighting the dangers of anything you have mentioned in fact it's a good thing but i'm just responding to the fact that everytime adams and mcguinness come up with a catchphrase it's all over every forum minutes later e.g no hopers, site of struggle, critical engagement, hooey(well not quite) etc..

[belfast rep]

well it's gone well off topic at this stage and there is nothing wrong with highlighting the dangers of anything you have mentioned in fact it's a good thing but i'm just responding to the fact that everytime adams and mcguinness come up with a catchphrase it's all over every forum minutes later e.g no hopers, site of struggle, critical engagement, hooey(well not quite) etc..


Tell me this how often do RSF repeat lines said by others,why is this onlyg an issues when it comes to SF.
Crown Ministers being a fine example, i am sure i could fine lots more, Adamsite, neo sticky.
Mc Guiness made a timely and relevant assertion and others repeat it whoopy do
if you agree it was right to highlight the issue, would not be better addressing those who ridicule it, rather using it to attack those support something you agree with, weird

[belfast rep]

By the way Sites of struggle and critical engagement are used to describe an activity and srategy ( the hooey bit losted me)
do you ever use the expression Eire Nua? thats a bit of a catch phrase an a bit older than sites of struggle

[scarface]

Tell me this how often do RSF repeat lines said by others,why is this onlyg an issues when it comes to SF.
Crown Ministers being a fine example, i am sure i could fine lots more, Adamsite, neo sticky.
Mc Guiness made a timely and relevant assertion and others repeat it whoopy do
if you agree it was right to highlight the issue, would not be better addressing those who ridicule it, rather using it to attack those support something you agree with, weird

Only one person on this forum has said Neo Sticky or Adamsite and i just made an obervation that a lot of the provos on here latched on to the term no hoper almost as quickly as it came out of martin's mouth

[scarface]

By the way Sites of struggle and critical engagement are used to describe an activity and srategy ( the hooey bit losted me)
do you ever use the expression Eire Nua? thats a bit of a catch phrase an a bit older than sites of struggle

hooey was mcguinness response to being called and agent IIRC and sites of struggle and critical engagement are vague catchphrases you can read about Eire Nua

[belfast rep]

hooey was mcguinness response to being called and agent IIRC and sites of struggle and critical engagement are vague catchphrases you can read about Eire Nua
they are very real to me if you want an example to no problem but they aren't to understand or to put in place.

[McDaid--1916]

You're right; the RSYM only focuses on issues that affect the elderly.

The over 60 age bracket is also their main source of recruitment. :slap:

I also said the ones that do, dont have a youth organisations as large as Ogra...

[McDaid--1916]

why do we start about catch phrases everytime your answered, its almost become a ................. catchphrase of RSF.
whats wrong highlighing the dangers of promoting alcohol, i wish he had included smoking.
slightly off topic as well, you should know better:)

Just a matter of co-incidence, guess who was on BBC news NI tonight (Tuesday)...your truly haha talking about the upsurge in under age drinking. Did anyone see me? lol

[robertemmett]

peak cap and wispy mustache and bottle of bo???? lol :)

[McDaid--1916]

peak cap and wispy mustache and bottle of bo???? lol :)

:icon_laugh:...no that wasnt me! lol..I was the pupil speaking from Immaculate Conception College.

[celticmad1888]

And what do you do?
well i do fuk all bt wud do sumting if i agreed wit wat ter doin bt i dnt agree wit them so y wud i join n help them if i dnt agree with it

[JPL]

well i do fuk all bt wud do sumting if i agreed wit wat ter doin bt i dnt agree wit them so y wud i join n help them if i dnt agree with it

So you don't do anything but you feel you're in a position to criticize the most active Republican youth movement in Ireland?

If you're not doing something, you're doing nothing.

So to answer your question. What is Ógra Shinn Fein doing? Alot more than you. They campaign consistently on alot of issues and are always out there doing something.

Stick to watching your Celtic games and leave Republicanism to those who actually go out and do something other than criticise other Republican movements.

[robertemmett]

So you don't do anything but you feel you're in a position to criticize the most active Republican youth movement in Ireland?

If you're not doing something, you're doing nothing.

So to answer your question. What is Ógra Shinn Fein doing? Alot more than you. They campaign consistently on alot of issues and are always out there doing something.

Stick to watching your Celtic games and leave Republicanism to those who actually go out and do something other than criticise other Republican movements.

he could take nightclasses

[celticmad1888]

So you don't do anything but you feel you're in a position to criticize the most active Republican youth movement in Ireland?

If you're not doing something, you're doing nothing.

So to answer your question. What is Ógra Shinn Fein doing? Alot more than you. They campaign consistently on alot of issues and are always out there doing something.

Stick to watching your Celtic games and leave Republicanism to those who actually go out and do something other than criticise other Republican movements.


well im not goin ta do sumtin 4 them if i dnt really support them
here and wt u mean stick ta watchin me celtic matches here bet ur 1 of them college ****s tink there better than every1 n dats y no1 joins ogra unless there losers
i no loads that joined it n due ta ppl lik u tey left n hw u s goin ta do fuk all wen yas cnt get support frm normal republicans
well in gettin a united ireland me n ogra r doin the same **** all

[FIM-92]

well im not goin ta do sumtin 4 them if i dnt really support them
here and wt u mean stick ta watchin me celtic matches here bet ur 1 of them college ****s tink there better than every1 n dats y no1 joins ogra unless there losers
i no loads that joined it n due ta ppl lik u tey left n hw u s goin ta do fuk all wen yas cnt get support frm normal republicans
well in gettin a united ireland me n ogra r doin the same **** all

Gaeilge or bog standard Irish English please.

[JPL]

well im not goin ta do sumtin 4 them if i dnt really support them
here and wt u mean stick ta watchin me celtic matches here bet ur 1 of them college ****s tink there better than every1 n dats y no1 joins ogra unless there losers
i no loads that joined it n due ta ppl lik u tey left n hw u s goin ta do fuk all wen yas cnt get support frm normal republicans
well in gettin a united ireland me n ogra r doin the same **** all

Were you beating your keyboard with the carcass of a dead ferret? I'm not a grammar nazi, but please.. at least make an effort.

Ógra are running campaigns all over the country, for social, economic, cultural and political issues. They are a youth group and have limited say in what happens in this country. However, you as an individual have not done anything in terms of Republicanism. Zilch, nada, diddly squat.

Don't you see the contradiction in criticising a group when you yourself, do sweet f' all? Rest assured, Ógra have done more than you ever will. I'm sorry if the truth hurts, but cry me a river, build me a bridge and get over it. You're a plastic republican.

[Ernie O'Malley]

Na Fianna Éireann do their bit too! anyway some of the younger family are in Ógra they do do quite a bit and be away a good bit they had a very professional national congress a month or so ago, my problem with Ógra is it is an attempt to dilute republican activism and subdue youth involvement in actual resistance to partition, in saying that my wee sister in law to be at 15 has done more for her beliefs in the last few months than Ive done for mine in the past few years so I cant knock them too much, all youth activism is a good thing, Ógra educate against racism stress the importance of the Language it also trains young people to have a political mind and if that mind develops to oppose current PSF strategy then they have a material basis gained to launch their opposition

[Bacon-Egg]

well im not goin ta do sumtin 4 them if i dnt really support them
here and wt u mean stick ta watchin me celtic matches here bet ur 1 of them college ****s tink there better than every1 n dats y no1 joins ogra unless there losers
i no loads that joined it n due ta ppl lik u tey left n hw u s goin ta do fuk all wen yas cnt get support frm normal republicans
well in gettin a united ireland me n ogra r doin the same **** all

it took me about half an hour to figure out what you were trying to say here boss.

I'm trying to figure out the logic behind your argument here, you say Ogra do nothing, and you are criticizing them for it, but you on the other hand do nothing, however think that is acceptable?

[celticmad1888]

Were you beating your keyboard with the carcass of a dead ferret? I'm not a grammar nazi, but please.. at least make an effort.

Ógra are running campaigns all over the country, for social, economic, cultural and political issues. They are a youth group and have limited say in what happens in this country. However, you as an individual have not done anything in terms of Republicanism. Zilch, nada, diddly squat.

Don't you see the contradiction in criticising a group when you yourself, do sweet f' all? Rest assured, Ógra have done more than you ever will. I'm sorry if the truth hurts, but cry me a river, build me a bridge and get over it. You're a plastic republican.

ok i do nothin
bt cud u giv me a republican group that can get me involve in republicanism other than ogra
i go to republican commerations n dats it really except posters
so i dont lik ogra and i want to get involve in something that i think helps a united ireland so any ideas and sorry about spelling but thats the way i write on texts or internet

[Hessian Peel]

ok i do nothin
bt cud u giv me a republican group that can get me involve in republicanism other than ogra
i go 2 republican commerations n dats it really except posters
so i dnt lik ogra n i want ta get involve in sumtin tat i think helps a united ireland so any ideas n sorry about spellin bt tats the way i write on txts or internet

Join the Republican Socialist Youth Movement.

www.rsym.org

[Ernie O'Malley]

You could Join Na Fianna Éireann In Baile atha Cliath, RSYM are a good group too seem to be very active the past loada months with some great writing from them and Im sure both would love someone for the posters!!,

[Hessian Peel]

Celticmad1888,

If you're interested in getting involved with the RSYM in Dublin just send me a pm comrade.

[belfast rep]

Join the Republican Socialist Youth Movement.

www.rsym.org
Comrade you need to put that into text speak for him,

get with times man

[celticmad1888]

but is rsym or na fianna eireann linked to any particular group or political party

[kev86]

but is rsym or na fianna eireann linked to any particular group or political party

RSYM are RSM, and NFE are RM (RSF)

[Hessian Peel]

but is rsym or na fianna eireann linked to any particular group or political party

The RSYM are the youth movement of the IRSP.

Fianna are, well, let's just say they're aligned to RSF.

[celticmad1888]

The RSYM are the youth movement of the IRSP.

Fianna are, well, let's just say they're aligned to RSF.
see i cnt join any of that cause of preffered political party sf
n r they only open to supporters of that group or can any1 be involed evenif not supporter of them

[kev86]

see i cnt join any of that cause of preffered political party sf
n r they only open to supporters of that group or can any1 be involed evenif not supporter of them


If you support the provos then just join ogra lol

[celticmad1888]

If you support the provos then just join ogra lol

but i dnt lik ogra n dnt agree with wat they do

[kev86]

but i dnt lik ogra n dnt agree with wat they do


So you support the provos but dont like their youth group ?

What dont you like about them ?

[celticmad1888]

So you support the provos but dont like their youth group ?

What dont you like about them ?

yea i support sf bt dnt lik tere youth
coz i get texts wat there doin n every time i dnt see hw anything they do will get a united ireland n they always ask ya ta sign petitions bt never hear about anything after dat

[Hessian Peel]

Support for PSF and membership of the RSYM aren't really compatible I'm afraid.

I'd say it's safe to say the same about Fianna.

[kev86]

I'd say it's safe to say the same about Fianna.

Haha you are correct mate :icon_lol:

[kev86]

yea i support sf bt dnt lik tere youth
coz i get texts wat there doin n every time i dnt see hw anything they do will get a united ireland n they always ask ya ta sign petitions bt never hear about anything after dat

So you dont think anything ogra do will get a united ireland?
What is it that psf are doin that you think will ?

Your quite the comedian :icon_lol: (no offence )

[ártybhoy]

Support for PSF and membership of the RSYM aren't really compatible I'm afraid.

I'd say it's safe to say the same about Fianna.
They all have one thing in common if theres ever a war the brits can just send over their cadets to deal with all the young ones as they aren't any use with guns which is a good thing.
Ogra are by far the ones who will be making a difference in the future being in positions of power in their respective communities having put their brains to use and being the largest by far.
The rest can march up and down hills while others stop cars going into buy petrol.

[Ernie O'Malley]

No I dont think NFE would be the fitting place for a young PSF supporter, If you support PSF why not Join Ógra they are massive and have something on every week nearly, plus they have class wee hand books with their constitution and stuff in it,

[Vox Populi]

They all have one thing in common if theres ever a war the brits can just send over their cadets to deal with all the young ones as they aren't any use with guns which is a good thing.
Ogra are by far the ones who will be making a difference in the future being in positions of power in their respective communities having put their brains to use and being the largest by far.
The rest can march up and down hills while others stop cars going into buy petrol.Was it not Ogra that chained themselves to a Statoil garage in 2005? :redface::redface::redface:

[ártybhoy]

Was it not Ogra that chained themselves to a Statoil garage in 2005? :redface::redface::redface:
Anno i was having a wee giggle yous are all doing something and should be very proud of yourselfs:bow: Tal.

[Vox Populi]

Good man. :eusa_clap:

[celticmad1888]

So you dont think anything ogra do will get a united ireland?
What is it that psf are doin that you think will ?

Your quite the comedian :icon_lol: (no offence )


hear to tell the thruth im very intrested in republicanism n i dnt have a clue what they r doin to get 1 but ill support them until i def knw there doin **** all n i support them mainly over family reasons

[Daithí]

hear to tell the thruth im very intrested in republicanism n i dnt have a clue what they r doin to get 1 but ill support them until i def knw there doin **** all n i support them mainly over family reasons

Youre full of ****e to be honest.

[celticmad1888]

go **** urself
hw am i ful of **** im 15 lik n i can spell your ya dope

[HimThere]

hear to tell the thruth im very intrested in republicanism n i dnt have a clue what they r doin to get 1 but ill support them until i def knw there doin **** all n i support them mainly over family reasons

you should research all you can on the different groups and choose one you agree with the most. And i am sure members on this forum would be able to help with that.

And you don't have to follow what your family does. My family are mostly psf supporters and i am a RSF man

[Daithí]

go **** urself
hw am i ful of **** im 15 lik n i can spell your ya dope


www.osf.ie

www.rsym.org

www.32csm.info

www.eirigi.org

www.rsf.ie

[celticmad1888]

you should research all you can on the different groups and choose one you agree with the most. And i am sure members on this forum would be able to help with that.

And you don't have to follow what your family does. My family are mostly psf supporters and i am a RSF man

yeah but i dnt think most of me friends or family would look at me the same way n that sum sinn feiners r friends of family

[HimThere]

yeah but i dnt think most of me friends or family would look at me the same way n that sum sinn feiners r friends of family

well then yur balloxed because the only youth group alligned to psf are osf n if you dont agree with them then ur betta off doing what your doing.

Or you could jus align with a different group and stick any abuse you get and if they are decent mates they will respect any choice you make

[celticmad1888]

well then yur balloxed because the only youth group alligned to psf are osf n if you dont agree with them then ur betta off doing what your doing.

Or you could jus align with a different group and stick any abuse you get and if they are decent mates they will respect any choice you make

ur 1 of the onli ppl on dis that makes sence#
n i no im ****ed

[rsfarmagh/keady]

Support for PSF and membership of the RSYM aren't really compatible I'm afraid.

I'd say it's safe to say the same about Fianna.

Thats for sure !

[Ernie O'Malley]

ur 1 of the onli ppl on dis that makes sence#
n i no im ****ed

Find out what you and only you agree with, is it the Direction of PSF? if it is then Ógra is for you if you see your whole future committed to fulfilling the goals laid out by PSF then thats for you, if you dont agree fully.. ask questions if you find out then you CANT agree then you need to find out what you do believe in, In Dublin at the Minute I would advise any young people before deciding to take a good look at the RSYM before making any choices as they are young radically and actively revolutionary and welcome debate, they have a good amount of writing out too not that I support the RSM but I believe they currently lay out a good example to other young people on how to be active....

[rsfarmagh/keady]

www.osf.ie

www.rsym.org

www.32csm.info

www.eirigi.org

www.rsf.ie

Fair play to you Daithi he has plenty to chose from :eusa_clap:

[HimThere]

ur 1 of the onli ppl on dis that makes sence#
n i no im ****ed

thanks for that

your not ****ed. If you are really dedicated to republicanism then you wont care about what anyone says, because you should be happy with whatever form of activism you take and whoever it is with

[Ernie O'Malley]

thanks for that

your not ****ed. If you are really dedicated to republicanism then you wont care about what anyone says, because you should be happy with whatever form of activism you take and whoever it is with

You have a very good attitude JP wish Id been as sensible and dedicated when I was your age.

[HimThere]

You have a very good attitude JP wish Id been as sensible and dedicated when I was your age.

go raibh maith agat mo chara

[celticmad1888]

Fair play to you Daithi he has plenty to chose from :eusa_clap:
yea but im really askin 4 ones that i didnt already no of if any

[TirEoghainLad]

wat u mean tak part in the struggle as sf always say the war is ova

The war is over - the struggle isnt over, nor can it be until a 32 co. democratic socialist republic is achieved

[maggie]

The war is over - the struggle isnt over, nor can it be until a 32 co. democratic socialist republic is achieved

well said :eusa_clap:

[Irish Republican Patriot]

The war is over - the struggle isnt over, nor can it be until a 32 co. democratic socialist republic is achieved

I hope you find that distinction comforting.

[celticmad1888]

im really startin 2 h8 dis thing

[Hessian Peel]

im really startin 2 h8 dis thing

What thing?

[celticmad1888]

dnt matter but was talkin bout this site but im addicted

[Tiocfaidh Armagh]

I'm not an SF supporter, but its clear to see who supports RSF and they way they are trying their best to pick any small thing and bend it a bit to make OSF look bad, but hey that debate I suppose!

[mickyk200]

what do osf do ???

Road safety campaigns...seems about it really.

[robertemmett]

I'm not an SF supporter, but its clear to see who supports RSF and they way they are trying their best to pick any small thing and bend it a bit to make OSF look bad, but hey that debate I suppose!

welcome tiocfaidh armagh.

another armagh person!! is this a sad indication of the the nitelife in the county that this forum is stuffed full of armagh ones?

[Newry Republican]

I'm not an SF supporter, but its clear to see who supports RSF and they way they are trying their best to pick any small thing and bend it a bit to make OSF look bad, but hey that debate I suppose!

Welcome Comrade your right thats debate just take a wee look at the thread East Tyrone started about the RSF Easter Commemoration in Tyrone and bent it to make RSF look bad! It got locked after 10 or so posts! But hey thats debate for ye.:icon_lol: Enjoy your stay :icon_lol:

[celticmad1888]

I'm not an SF supporter, but its clear to see who supports RSF and they way they are trying their best to pick any small thing and bend it a bit to make OSF look bad, but hey that debate I suppose!
what do you mean ???

Road safety campaigns...seems about it really.

and how will that help get a united ireland i think its just a waste of time joining ogra

[mickyk200]

and how will that help get a united ireland i think its just a waste of time joining ogra
Exactly