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    Adams appeals for Information

    Sinn Féin President and west Belfast MP Gerry Adams has appealed again for anyone with any information - no matter how small they may think it is - concerning any of those remains still missing to "either bring that information forward to the Commission or any of the official agencies, or to myself or any other Sinn Fein representative."

    Mr. Adams this morning praised the great resilience and determination of the family and their refusal to give up.

    Mr. Adams said:

    "Efforts continue to identify the locations of Seamus Wright, Kevin McKee, Columba McVeigh, and Brendan McGraw who were killed by the IRA.

    Sinn Féin will continue to support all the families, including the families of Seamus Ruddy, Charlie Armstrong, Gerard Evans and Lisa Dorrian and to work diligently on this important issue, let me repeat my call on anyone with any information, no matter how small, to bring that information forward either to the Commission or any of the official agencies or to myself or any other Sinn Fein representative."

    http://www.sinnfeinassembly.com/en/p...tre/entry/4289
    http://williefrazeratemyhamster.blogspot.com/

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    is it just me or is this not a bit hypocritical given the revelations in ed molony's book about the bearded one setting up a secret squad to "disappear" people.

    to try to act as a referee or conduit for an anguish he created in the first place is hypocrisy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tory View Post
    is it just me or is this not a bit hypocritical given the revelations in ed molony's book about the bearded one setting up a secret squad to "disappear" people.

    to try to act as a referee or conduit for an anguish he created in the first place is hypocrisy
    It was anguish created by Republicans, there is no hypocricy in Republicans attempting to address the damage now.

    Plenty of hypocricy in giving out about the actions and also giving out when people try to do something about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mellows1922 View Post
    It was anguish created by Republicans, there is no hypocricy in Republicans attempting to address the damage now.

    Plenty of hypocrisy in giving out about the actions and also giving out when people try to do something about them.

    who disappeared them? why?

    there's an old saying goes: either put up or shut up, and the decent thing for adams mc guinness et al to do would be to make full disclosure of where bodies are and let the families get on with it. they created the problem and should bring it to an end instead of riding on people's misery trying to convince people they are uninvolved mediators.

    do something substantive and do it now. full revelation of disappeared people. end the misery. stop the hypocrisy.


    would you not agree mr mellows

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    as a matter of interest mellows: do you hold to the view that gerry was never in the ira, or mc stout left it in 1972?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tory View Post
    who disappeared them? why?

    there's an old saying goes: either put up or shut up, and the decent thing for adams mc guinness et al to do would be to make full disclosure of where bodies are and let the families get on with it. they created the problem and should bring it to an end instead of riding on people's misery trying to convince people they are uninvolved mediators.

    do something substantive and do it now. full revelation of disappeared people. end the misery. stop the hypocrisy.


    would you not agree mr mellows
    I don't for a second think anybody is holding back information on purpose, least of all Adams. It was a dirty and dark series of episodes in the Movements history and it serves no positive purpose to let it drag on any longer than needed, it would be far better for Adams and everybody else in the Movement to locate and identify all missing bodies and bring the missing to a close, which is exactly what is being attempted, but it isn't easy. Even if you are of the opinion, and I am not, that Adams was aware before the events of who went missing and when, you'd have to be mad to believe that he knew where they went, there are only those directly involved in placing the bodies in the ground that would know exact locations and exact locations become very hazy very quickly when it's done at night in a remote area with very similar looking landscape all around, not even taking into account how the landscape changes over twenty or thirty years. I very much doubt GPS or map coordintes were involved, I would assume it was done as quickly as possible, with the only thought being get the job done and get gone as speedily as possible. Some of those directly involved may well have passed on themselves since, taking that information with them. The RM has done everything in it's power to locate all of the bodies and will continue to do so, but it isn't always as simple as saying x body is here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tory View Post
    as a matter of interest mellows: do you hold to the view that gerry was never in the ira, or mc stout left it in 1972?
    I don't see what relevence that has to the topic but I'm not much interested in knowing who was in the Army or for how long, it's personal information, if you choose to tell the world fair play, if you choose not to tell the world fair play, if you choose to tell the world bits fair play, it your own business to share or not share.

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    mellows

    i will agree with you that it would be best for all to have the matter resolved quickly. i do however find the adams line on it to be quite hypocritical and not at all honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mellows1922 View Post
    I don't see what relevence that has to the topic but I'm not much interested in knowing who was in the Army or for how long, it's personal information, if you choose to tell the world fair play, if you choose not to tell the world fair play, if you choose to tell the world bits fair play, it your own business to share or not share.
    it has every relevance since the publication of ed moloney's book which identified gerry as the man who set up the "disappearing" squad.

    thus, gerry knows more than he tells his acolytes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tory View Post
    it has every relevance since the publication of ed moloney's book which identified gerry as the man who set up the "disappearing" squad.

    thus, gerry knows more than he tells his acolytes
    Well you take Moloneys book with more authority than I do so. But it isn't really relevent for individuals to be pointed at as "setting up" the disappearing squad, it was part and parcel of the Republican Movement regardless of who initiated it or participated in it. Should we name the names of all the volunteers who shot or killed non combatants too ? Or go looking to out all of the volunteers who placed bombs that killed people not directly involved in the war ? Or should we go looking to have the pictures of volunteers plastered on the front page of The Sun in relation to whatever actions it was they took part in during the war ? I'm not trying to airbrush the reality of what happened, it is far from a pleasant reality, but what happened didn't occur in a vortex, people were believed to have been guilty of various crimes, mostly of being touts and action was taken, action believed to be correct at the time. In hindsight and with 20/20 vision it's far easier to place those incidents in isolation and dissect them bit by bit, the Movement has generally accepted that disappearing those bodies was a cold and callous move, and has subsequently done all in it's power to bring each individual case to a close.

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